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Hi everyone, I've lurked on these forums here and there, but I decided to actually make an account now that I've received my first anvil...s

My uncle contacted me a few months after I asked him to keep a look out for any anvils he might see. He works at a scrap recycling plant and sees scrap come through all the time. So I went to go see him (unfortunately did *not* bring my truck) and he gave me 2 anvils that were brought in to be melted down. One being a ~35ish lbs anvil made from what looks to be a railroad track. The other is a big ass anvil that feels like it weighs like 150ish lbs. I was barely able to get it into the neon and we had to use my father's car lift to get it out of the trunk. Maybe it's just awkward to hold, but it seems heavier than 150 lbs.

So, I wanted to clean it up a bit because someone said I should check for welds and cracks. I cleaned off the loose bits with a fine cupped wire-brush with a hand drill and used evapo-rust and a tight woven cotton rag (old clothes) to clean the surfaces. I hosed it off with water while fighting the dog off me (swear that dog was a puma in a past life with her love for water) and rubbed a small amount of boiled linseed oil into the metal, which made the anvil really look nice and shows the amount of blood, sweat and iron that's gone over it. I frickin' love the worn but shiny look to it now.

So, after looking it over and doing some research online, it looks like a Peter Wright anvil... But I'm brand new to this, so I can most definitely be wrong. The latter pictures are the ones I've taken of the symbols, which one looks like a nordic rune almost, embedded with a chisel. The others look to be in exact placement as the Peter Wright anvils but without the importation stamps... Which from some of my research would indicate that this anvil was imported before 1903 where these stamps were required...?

Anyways, has anyone ever seen this kind of anvil before? I'd love to know everything about it since it's going to be an integral tool for myself.

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Looks like a Peter Wright to me. The only thing i find strange is the visible top plate.

Peter wright was very good at covering that up. According to the weight stamp, she weighs 247lbs.

The style seems to be after 1910, Although i cant see the stamp after 1910 they were required to stamp England in their anvils.

Maybe someone who is more knowledgeable on Pete's can tell you for sure what the date is.

Congrats on the anvil, awesome scrap yard find!

 

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29 minutes ago, Benjaman said:

Looks like a Peter Wright to me. The only thing i find strange is the visible top plate.

Peter wright was very good at covering that up. According to the weight stamp, she weighs 247lbs.

The style seems to be after 1910, Although i cant see the stamp after 1910 they were required to stamp England in their anvils.

Maybe someone who is more knowledgeable on Pete's can tell you for sure what the date is.

Congrats on the anvil, awesome scrap yard find!

 

Thanks Ben! (Can I call you that? lol) Actually I'm based in Western New York, so this being an English Anvil is pretty cool.

Goddamn! Now I know why I'm dying after carrying it out! lmao! May I ask how you identified that it was 247 lbs? I saw the 2 on the left side, but I'd like to know a bit more.

Also, there's an M on the bottom of the same side (2nd to last picture) and do you know anything about that marking on the other half? It looks like a rune to me, but I'm at a loss. Could be an owner's mark for all I know.

What was the style before 1910?

Sorry for the interrogation, just trying to get educated. lol *whistles innocently*


EDIT: Actually, after looking at the anvil some more you *can* just barely make out Peter Wright, there seems to have been some more underneath but I can't read it, it's way too faded. So there's my importation stamp I guess?

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The weight on peter wrights is in the English hundredweights.

First number being that number multiplied by 112,

Second by 28 i believe, and the third is just the remainder weight left. So that number multiplied by 1.

Before 1910 They did not have to put England in the name, but just what i've seen. From the ones i have seen anyways.

They look shorter, a bit bulkier, and a little bit rougher. that one seems a bit taller and lengthier. Seems smoother too, but like i said i could be wrong about the date but if i had to make a guess that would be mine.

As for the "m" stamped below, im stumped, no idea lol... and the "rune" you talked about, i think that's just a chisel mark.

 

 

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Oh, alright, I'll leave the chisel mark for now, lol

The smoothness I think could also be because of how rusty this thing was when I got it, there was a *lot* of rust on it. So blame me for that ;P

Thanks for that bombshell of information though on hundredweights, I haven't heard that system since I was in highschool. That's really cool. Don't really understand the third number though, it says 23 or 2.3 but that's a bit confusing. (To me anyways) I'll do some research on it so I can understand it better.

Thank you sincerely for the info!

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What a nice looking anvil, the face looks flat and the edges are remarkably clean, great weight for a shop anvil...  Looks like something that was only lightly used, or very well cared for by a prior owner.  Fantastic score, congrats!

It shocks me that scrappers haven't picked up on the market demand & value of old anvils... the local yards are paying between 3 and 4 cents a pound so the scrap value of something like this is less than $9 while it would easily fetch $1000 or more on Craigslist or a local antique/used tool shop.  Glad this one was rescued before it was shredded and sent off to China to build microwaves or flat panel TV mounts!

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44 minutes ago, Yuppiejr said:

It shocks me that scrappers haven't picked up on the market demand & value of old anvils

My closest yard isn't allowed to sell anything once in their yard by Zoning, city & state licensing regulations, Sales tax regulations and they don't want people poking around because of insurance.  One of the workers told me it isn't unusual to have mystery shoppers trying to buy stuff from them sent in by one of the regulating bodies so it's a blank NO! They have had mystery sellers show up to see if they buy stuff they shouldn't like RR items from none contractors.  Big Brother at work using the word Work loosely.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Thanks everyone for your input!!! So sorry I haven't been able to respond due to moving and my computer was packed up for the time being. 

@Yuppiejr - Thanks! It's a real beauty of an anvil and with some boiled linseed oil I smile every time I look at it.

@Benjaman - Whoops, sorry, I didn't quite get what you meant by smoothness before lol *shrugs* but I get you now. The horn's tip is kinda.... Broken? I guess... I don't know how prominent the tip is supposed to be though.

@George Geist - Thanks man, it feels great to own one finally! I'll die if I lose it, lol.

@notownkid - Interesting, I think the place where I got the anvil from allows people who do work for them and certain individuals to comb through some of the stuff that might be more valuable, but I know they don't allow everyday people to just walk through the yard.

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FIRST THING when lucking out with getting something from a limited access place is to give a THANK YOU PRESENT!  Buy them a dozen good brand doughnuts!

Bribery *works*!!!!  Once you learn some smithing then making trinkets for the folks is good---bottle openers made from stuff they provided for instance...

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One of my prime targets for "good PR" gifts is the secretary, nice card holders, pen holders, etc. are money in the bank. THE person who knows what's where is the secretary if s/he says keep an eye out for . . . X and set aside it's going to happen.

Frosty The Lucky.

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