Greetings,

 

I believe I have found an Alldays and Onions Anvil here in the US. Are these rare, I cannot find anything about them.

I have Trenton's, a Peter Wright and Many more. This anvil ears the Mark 3 3 24 and has the stamping on the feet as well. My Peter Wright has the weight mark and the name on the side. This I believe Alldays has a smaller fatter stubbier horn not like the Peter Wright Pattern.  Document4.docx

At 444# that is a good sized anvil.  

If you put your location under your name, answers will be easier to give since we don't where you are. Anvil rarity, and value can vary greatly with location.

 

Edited April 18, 201511 yr by BIGGUNDOCTOR

Kansas, new to the forum, my apologies.

no problems Lindsey, if you add it to your profile so it appears below your name it will save others asking and you answering on future threads where location can affect the replies.

you dont have to do it but most do.

It looks like Alldays was a major maker. They made smithing supplies, bicycles, cars, and more.

Do you know if they made anvils. I have no idea what else it could be.

On your fleaBay ad, you state that it has no makers mark, and yet you want several grand for it at $5/lb. I call your post chumming the waters.

An unmarked anvil is just that: unmarked. Any conjecture as to its rarity and provenance is just that: unsupported conjecture.

It could be any of several hundred makers, but I could find no images or conversations online about A&O anvils. Power hammers, swage blocks, forges and bellows, yes. Anvils no.

Edited April 19, 201511 yr by John McPherson

Not my ad, found on E-bay and contacted the seller who stated it was an Alldays (the seller lives in Kansas would save me freight). As far as chumming I am afraid not, no logic in living by pure assumptions. Looking to buy a large anvil found one and thought I would ask (thus the whole joining I Forge Iron to seek out information from others that might know a thing or two).

Large anvils in my area are as rare as hens teeth. Would like to have one for my shop.

Probably be up to our UK friends to speak about  A&O and if they made anvils.  I have seen bellows and forges made by them so an anvil is not a stretch even if it's just stamped with their name and made for them by another company.  

I would check ring and the ball bearing test and not worry about names; names are often used as a reason to gouge but I'd not pay a dollar more for a *RARE* anvil than for a common one if they were the same size and same condition.  Shoot we were pounding on a Powell today!

Took me a while to find my main shop anvil but I am very happy with a mint Fisher anvil made for a Blacker powerhammer and weighing in around 515# of course paying under a dollar a pound sure made my face hurt!

For that kind of money I would buy a Nimba Gladiator myself.

Thanks for the feedback, Thomas. I have Postman's first edition and do not know if he made additional additions where this could have been covered (identifying post 1998 Anvil discoveries like A and O). Does the Nimba compare to the older models (note I see the waist/width variance with the Nimba)?

The Nimba page lists the alloy and heat treat specs for them; their design makes for a massive amount of "sweet spot". The people I personally know that have Nimbas are very smug about owning them...I wish I was one of the lucky ones!

John, forgot to add in your previous rant; were you stating I was merely supporting a conjecture or did you cross thy wires and meant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPoBE-E8VOc . As a professor I have to swim through the mediocrity of laymen terms to find the routes beyond the stupid sauce of the Google nation. Best to you and all respect to, I Forge Iron. Lindsey

I can confirm that alldays and onions did make anvils, or at least had them made on their behalf, there was one on UK eBay in the last month, no idea about size or quality, it looked cast to me but that's all the information I have and its the only one I've ever seen.

Lindsey, I apologize if that was not your anvil for sale, we have had a few instances of folks trying to skirt around the tailgate rules and stir up interest by posting as observers. The low post count/flash in the pan account always seems to accompany that sort of thing.

Must be getting paranoid in my old age. If it were not past the deadline, I would go back and change the wording.

I've seen one alldays and onions anvil on ebay. It was maybe 100lbs and looked remarkably like a cast iron ASO. It was certainly cast as the name was raised. 

 

 

A&O made all sorts of things from blowers to forges and anvil stands. Though I've no idea if they ever did an anvil that size. 

 

that anvil in your link is almost certainly forged. The feet suggest a Peter Wright or something similar. It looks nothing like the A&O anvil I saw. 

Andy

Edited April 19, 201511 yr by Everything Mac

 hi  allday and onion  was a large manufacture in uk    they made  many many thing   forging ,  foundry  steel rolling mills, cars ,motor bikes     the company still are going      

  i think now it has a new name   but they make huge fans for  moving large amounts of air   , 

  here is the older cars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alldays_%26_Onions

another linkhttp://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Alldays_and_Onions

Moony, as always a trove of info, a very interesting link thanks for posting it.

I've known quite a few guys that owned cars that were 'lemons' but never an 'onion'. 

Thanks for the link Moony, another home run for the man from down under.

Frosty The Lucky.

a place local to me used to make blowers for aldays and forges too, now they still make blowers and are called UTILE

In about 1998 a friend in Sydney (Australia) bought an Alldays & Onions anvil; identified by the 6-point star.  It is 8 cwt, yes eight! Couldn't believe it!

regs,

AndrewOC

ps it isn't for sale

There's one on ebay, Its been on there for many months because the seller is VERY proud of his anvil.

 

Andrew,any chance of getting a picture of that monster? 896# right?

  this firm   was part of the  industrial revolution  ,that spear headed  us in to our world , now   that we live ,

  many firms  have  past by the side , some survive ,

   the history of the metal man ,

   remember   no angle grinders  no   drill press   

   only  thought of mind ,eye to hand,, hand to sledge

  made the metal man    

a little poem  by me