jacobd Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Not sure if this is the right place for this video. I just thought it was very cool. So much work..... I can never appreciate the effort it took a few centuries ago enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Yes, a very cool video. The whole process - from raw ore to a handled tool. And not a pair of boots, earplugs, safety glasses in sight.Our WPHS folks would have a field day there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobd Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Wphs? It is cool. The amount of work for a little iron is nearly incomprehensible being raised in this modern world. It is easier for me to appreciate the value of iron in the past now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Russell Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 WPHS = Work Place Health & Safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaughnT Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I don't understand how you can forge iron without a london-pattern anvil? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postleg Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Watching that should silence all of those who can't find the right style anvil and hammer. I'll bet none of the guys in the video have access to this website and all the info contained here. So no more excuses get out here and forge something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Watching that should silence all of those who can't find the right style anvil and hammer. I'll bet none of the guys in the video have access to this website and all the info contained here. So no more excuses get out here and forge something. Those folk don't need the internet, they had to listen to their father and grandfather or go hungry for lack of a craft. Most anybody can understand a simple binary solution problem. Do I think watching this will stop modern folk from wanting the PERFECT tools to do the job? NOPE, not till they figure out the tools don't do the job and that only comes from giving it a try. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I really like this film. Great view of people who actually remember a process that a lot of us are trying to create from our own distant cultural past. Great to see it before the info is lost. I also love the way everybody is gathering round, mucking in and giving it some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlson Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I think I might start boycotting white mans matches and starting my fires with flint and fire steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Which has a MUCH longer "White Man's Technique" timespan than matches do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crunch Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Neat video, thanks for posting. Question: Would that have been iron at the end of that process, or would it be more accurate to call it "steel"? Would enough carbon from the charcoal have dissolved in the iron to make it steel? My uninformed hunch was always that "iron" would be unworkable with a hammer and anvil, yet it seemed to work fine. Would the material created in the video possibly be what would be called "wrought iron"? I'm curious what the properties of the metal used to make the hoe would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobd Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Iron is workable. It all depends on temp and ore. Lower temps yield wrought. Higher yield steel. That's an oversimplification (because I don't know much more than that), but the general idea. There are a lot of variables tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobd Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 A little more info. Pure iron is softer than good bronze. It is easily forge-able. the Zulu weapons were pure iron if my IIRC. It has to be work hardened. To get anything decent it has to be worked to a point between annealed and the fatigue point to get much use out of it. It is very soft and easily forged. Like wrought iron. Although I don't think it's as temperature sensitive as wrought. I would assume if they have pure iron then their bloomery doesn't reach a high enough temperature to allow the iron to absorb carbon. This would also imply silicates aren't getting trapped in the iron. Which I would think would be a attribute of the ore. The beginning of my post contained some facts. After that mostly speculation. I'm waiting on Frosty or Mr powers to comment. In the video they work the metal at a temperature that leads me to believe it's not wrought. So it's probably steel. Wrought would split at some of the temperatures they were working at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crunch Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Thank you for the reply, Jacobd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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