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My wife's birthday is coming up and she loves Roses so I thought I would make a nice vase with some Roses in it.

I've looked high and low and can't seem to find a simple pattern for the bud. I want to make them out of copper scrap.

Anybody have a pattern they can share with me?


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I looked on anvilfire, no luck.
I saw one somewhere a while back. It was the same as the one Mark Aspery uses in his rose making demo on utube.
I was hoping to avoid re-inventing the wheel on this.....

I know its out there...... Somewhere

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When I make them I use 5 petals per layer 2 layers the first being a little longer than the second

lay out the petals ( I forge mine out of 1/4 x 1 usually) make them taper to base ( MIDLE) I weld them together leaving a hole for the stem forge stem to allow petal package to slid on but not all-the way down leaving about 1 inch weld the first package

Place second - smaller package ( the differences in length allow for the greater distance the first have to travel ) weld second package - now start bending up petals like you would tighten lug-nuts on a wheel ( onside then do opposite) work around the second package until it is fairly tight.

Start first package but start in a different place and alternate one side to another being sure to tuck each petal under the next so that they lay one over the other all the way round (( do this on both sets)

Now start peeling the exposed edge back a little as a real rose might look .

or you could cut each set a petals from a sheet - I like the forged look so that it does not look too commercial - using steel I end up with about 4 pounds of rose. more like a weapon .

Here is one I made for my sister from one piece of steel No welding I started with two identical pieces one ended up being the rose leaf and the other the base.


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Click on Jere Kirkpatrick's Valley Forge & Welding site to get a visual: http://saber.net/jere/. Jere shows four layers plus calyx, but a guy can use five. My calyx looks a little like a five pointed star.

The layout is also shown in Ernst Schwarzkopf's excellent book, "Plain and Ornamental Forging."


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This is the simplest I've ever used. Cut a circle, according to the size you want to make the rose, drill/punch a hole in the center for the stem and divide the circle into 4,5 or 6 pie pieces. Nip off the outter corners and shape to suite. You can stack 3 or more of these depending on how many petals you want the rose to have.

Forgive the crude drawing. I don't draw so well with a mouse. Who am I kidding? I don't draw so well with a pencil neither! sad.gif


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I use the pattern shown a few post up, sort like Bill Epps' but with the five points on the calyx. I use what they call 16oz copper, the stuff used for flashing, gutters, etc., and have stacked as many as 15 layers high. clamp tightly in vise, tack with your MIG (yep, you can do it), mark your pattern on the top using a scribe, and cut with your bandsaw. (I use my wood bandsaw for this as it works just fine. I keep a small container of water handy to cool as they do get hot. Leave one corner that is tacked for the last to be cut as one you seperate all of the tacked up corner you will have a bunch of pieces. I also use the 5 layer of petals. Weld a 1/4" bolt on the end of your 'stem' make sure to build up for the rose hip and use a lock washer and nut to secure the petals to the stem. I will also secure a piece of felt to the nut on the inside to absorb the rose scent. You can go to Hobbie Lobby for rose scent, it's cheap and really adds to the rose. Have fun.

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I did a step by photo series on my Blog of making some roses. Take a look at www.creationsinmetal.tumblr.com.page/2 and the newer posts. Note that I missed a step in the photo series. There is a 4 point star added under the bud when assembling to the stem that gets rolled down. It shows in the final picture but not in the step by step.


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Thomas- You smart! stack up 15.... now thats what I call gett'n it done :D I might use the tig and fuze it though.

I need a vase full so I think you just saved me about 4 hours- maybe more!


Fe-Wood, I tried the TIG but like the MIG better as it is faster. I can have petals for 15 roses in about an hour, 1 1/2hrs tops. I also use a chipping gun with a real dull chisel to do the texture. Put a rubber or wood under the copper, anything real hard and you will cut through the copper. Pic of the vase of roses when you are done!
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Will do Thomas-
OK, I'll use the mig. No need to work to hard....
I spent the afternoon prepping and making tools for the roses.... Don't have a scale gun.... I'm going with Mark Aspery's method so I made some of the tools in his utube video. Depending on how well it goes- I'll post pictures along the way :unsure: never made a rose before....

I also did a practice spinning run on a similar design for the vase. It will be drawn this deep but a different design and in Copper or Brass.

As a beginning spinner this shape has been a huge challenge



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I suggest going to a hobby supply store such as Michelle’s or Hobby lobby. Find a fake / silk flower that you like and purchases 2 of them. Take one apart and flatten out the peddles and use that as your pattern. The second flowed is a model to go by when you form the flower. A lot of engineering goes into designing those flowers so they will be easily stamped out and formed into a flower. Take advantage of that engineering…

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I don't know whether this will work or not, but I'll give it a go in the absence of blueprints, based on my notes and bits done on this weekends course at Westpoint. and some pics I've tried to put in. the ones illustrated have five petals which seems to be the American standard, and four petals which I normally use There should be enogh information to help you to make them

There are two methods used, one where the petals are dished before assembly which are preferably held on by a screw to the stem (four petal version) or the alternative is to rivet the petals on (Five petal version)and whilst the centre is easily accessible, rivet them on to the stem. Then use a torch and round nose pliers to adjust the petals.

So Here we go,

Making a stem for a flower head

Forge a tenon on the end to suit the holes in the petals,

Square up the shoulder with a monkey tool

Using a necking / spring tool, neck in at a suitable distance

Draw down the bar for a stem long enough for your requirements and cut off

Leave the end as a scarf if you intend to forge weld it to another stem, or make a tenon if you intend to fit it to to something else

Or you could omit the tenon and drill and tap into the flat end of the bar to secure the petals and sepal with a suitable screw.

Forming the Petals

Cut out all the forms

Method 1

Texture or thin the edges on each petal, start at the outer sides and work towards centre
The petal will spread as you thin it out

Anneal if necessary,

Dish each petal assembly, each one to fit inside the other, curl tops outwards slightly

Cup the sepal (star shape) and texture


Assemble the petals to the stem in the correct order,

Use a round head or pan head screw to secure them to the stem,

Finally adjust the petals and sepal to your liking, clean up and finish as required

Rose oil on a felt pad gives a finishing touch

Method 2

Texture or thin the edges on each petal, start at the outer sides and work towards centre
The petal will spread as you thin it out

Assemble the petals to the stem in the correct order, then use a set to close them up to the shoulder, and rivet them in position,

(Heat the tenon using a torch if necessary then you can use a snap to rivet the tenon over).

Using an appropriate heat source, adjust the petals and sepal to your liking,

Clean up and finish as required

Rose oil on a felt pad gives a finishing touch

Then to make it really a double whammy on Valentines day and gain some brownie points make a heart as Brian Brazeall's contribution and secure the rose to the heart (Tenon or weld),

That would make a nice paperweight or dressing table ornament

Good luck and have fun












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