G George Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I bought this 7 & 1/2" vise, it was frozen at the pivot point. I used a car jack to spread the vise open as I was trying to remove the bolt. Little did I know the bolt was broken and broke again as I spread the arms open. When I got it apart there were 2 holes in the pivot foot, and the bolt that was broken had to be persuaded to get out with a big hammer and punch. So I bought a grade 8 bolt 3/4" x 5" , my problem is I did not get the spring, u-bolt and mounting bracket, and need an original bolt. I want to sell this vise and wondered if I should fix it, or sell as is. I have a small smithy and do not need a tool of this size. any idea of what it's value is. Thanks for you input, G George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Can we see the pivot foot? I would fix it and clean it up and ask top dollar for it. I generally buy them without the spring/mounting bracket and get a substantial discount that way. I once had one where the top of the jaws were badly offset vertically so I heat shrunk and bradded in a plug in the original wallered out hole and redrilled it so the jaws properly met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G George Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 So take it apart and take a pic of the pivot point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G George Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 The foot, or pivot point with the 2 holes, then with bolt in outer hole, then in inner hole. The holes are not wallered out, 3/4" bolt was same size as original bolt. And should I take a wire wheel on my angle grinder to it and follow with oil?? Thanks, G George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Thanks! I wonder if a previous owner was trying to make the jaw faces meet flat? On postvises they usually only meet at the very top and as the jaw travels on an arc they will be parallel to each other at some distance when they are open. Changing the pivot point would change that distance. I'd take it apart, gently wire wheel it and then follow with a light coating of boiled linseed oil except for the bearing sections and those I would lubricate. Does the square nut fit the new bolt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G George Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 they meet flat on both holes, I thought the 2 holes were to work different sizes of metal, but being a newb, I do not know. Any idea what its worth? I have a guy that says he will make me the missing pieces. Fixed what would it bring, like it is what would it bring? I have no clue as most vises are 4", and pricey. Thank You Sir for your advice! G George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 What it's worth where I am at will not be the same as where you are at. Have you asked folks at the ABANA affiliate(s) for your state what the going rate is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 G George, Check out the Blacksmiths of Mo. organization and ask some of them for the going value of post vises around you. So check www.bamsite.org SLAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel h Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I would swap you a complete 4 inch for it if we were closer together. I’ve been wanting one like that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latticino Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I'd certainly do the same, though the replaced pivot bolt looks a lot smaller diameter than the one in my "new" 5" vise that I disassembled last night. In addition to local prices, you also have to consider how long you are willing to wait for a sale. I'm guessing that if you have it priced, as it stands, in the $100-200 range it will sell quickly. Anything in excess of $300 and you will likely sit on it a while, unless you get a local smith who just has to have a larger post vise. Prices on e-bay, and to some extent Craig's List, are way out of whack and certainly don't always reflect actual selling price (on e-bay you need to check the "sold" tab and for Craig's list the price listed is only the upper limit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I pay up to $10 per inch of jaw width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Well, I've bought around 20 postvises in the 1990's for US$20-25 apiece in Central Ohio; most 4-5". Then prices began to climb. I bought a couple larger ones for $45 at Quad-State in the 2000-2010 years and a couple of 6" ones in New Mexico for $75 each. (And an outlier: 6.5"---no spring or mounting brackets for $50 at Q-S where they were generally going for $300+, also bought a 3.5" vise that Q-S for $20 as it was *old*, Frank Turley told me he thought it dated before 1800! I still use it from time to time so it doesn't feel abandoned as old and useless.) Last Quad-State I went too I bought almost nothing as "bubble pricing" seems to be taking hold there too. Using TPAAAT I usually avoid such prices and as I tooled up in cheaper years can coast. A big help now that I will be unemployed after Friday June 28. As usual the "No Time, but Money; or Time but No Money" is holding true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleur de lis Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I paid a third of what your asking. For my 6-1/2" iron city that was in immaculate condition. This was late last year or early this year. Either way, not long ago & I'm not but an hour from you. Not trying to be critical either. If you can get your asking price, more power to ya. But you may have that vise a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/25/2019 at 6:48 PM, G George said: I want to sell this vise Post it up in the Tailgating section with what you think its worth or OBO, you never know until you try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G George Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 Mr. Fluer de lis; I have not quoted an asking price on a forum that does not allow that, I was just gathering information. I know better than to try to sell on a forum that does not allow that, I am sorry you must be confused. People today read so fast that the content gets scrambled, no harm, no foul. Have a nice day all, and thank you for your valuable input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 This forum does allow selling in the Tailgating section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 2 hours ago, G George said: I know better than to try to sell on a forum that does not allow that, Don't go! You can buy and sell in the "Tailgating" section and you're reaching 150+ countries and some 50,000 members. Ask high, be willing to dicker or hold onto it a while. This is just the reality of selling if you're not a store front. Frosty The Lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G George Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 I am sorry Mr. Fleur de lis; I thought you meant I was pricing it here, yes I posted on craigslist, they are 1000.00 on Fleabay, figured someone might give half of that, it is a rare item, ie; not many seen or sold. To the rest of you I am new here as in posting, I have lurked for quite some time, and learned a lot without posting. I am not leaving, I do know about the tailgating forum, this is not it so I would not post it for sale here, I would there. I would very much like to see someone buy any vise for 10.00 an inch! My 4 inch from a BAM member cost me $150.00 & its been repaired. With this Forged in Fire show even the fellow that filled my propane bottle said " I am thinking of buying a gas forge and trying to make some knives, does not seem to be much to it" and I steered him toward an anvil site where he would not get ripped off. My point is everyone seems to think just because some guys on TV can whip out some blades in 4 hours anyone can, Ha Ha With so many replies sometimes I get confused, so to all my most sincere apologies! G George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 48 minutes ago, G George said: My point is everyone seems to think just because some guys on TV can whip out some blades in 4 hours anyone can, Ha Ha True words. Lots, maybe the majority of folk who don't work with their hands think buying a tool somehow imparts the knowledge to use it. I say it here often, Tools don't do a thing, it's the critter with a big brain and thumbs that does the work. What tools and equipment are worth has a large of location factor. There was a 4" leg vise on C-list and Ebay here for better than a year asking $1,500. He finally started lowering the price and it went for $1,000. Blacksmith anything goes for crazy money here. The size of your vise has a wow factor, folks who might bargain for a 6" leg vise might fall for a BIGGER is BETTER vise. You see the same thing with folk looking for the heaviest anvil they can find. With the FIF bubble still growing I'd ask pretty high and be ready to talk. I'd sit on it for a while before I started lowering asking. I'm not in need though so I can be patient for money. Nice vise, looks like a real bruiser. No need to apologize, you're doing fine. Everybody takes a while to get used to playing with the gang. Frosty The Lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleur de lis Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 No worries mate. Lots & lots of info & opinions around here. Fleabay is very very subjective price wise. If ya get down to Springfield, give me a shout. I'd be happy to hammer so metal with ya. And watch out for Frosty. That guys shifty.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 My last vise was a Columbian in excellent condition and complete. 4.5" if I remember right - $40, and I probably could have gone lower and still got it. There was an 8" listed near me not too long ago for $80 that I should have called in to work that day and went to get it. Location plays a big part in pricing. I look at it this way, if I need a really big post vise I can make my own pretty inexpensively... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G George Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 Big Gun , I think you are a very lucky person, Mr. fluer de lis I would love learning from you, PM me and we can get together. Mr. frosty, you are a true gentleman! Thanks to all, from a newb. You should see the anvil I have being shipped in! I can not wait. G George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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