Bill Mcclain Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I'm building a frosty 6-inch T burner but not quite sure on the mounting or how far inside the forge it should stick thru also confused on what the burner flare is Do I weld 6"nipple to my forge or what. Any help would be greatlyappreciated Trailrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mcclain Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 I'm building a frosty 6-inch T burner but not quite sure on the mounting or how far inside the forge it should stick thru also confused on what the burner flare is Do I weld 6"nipple to my forge or what. Any help would be greatlyappreciated Trailrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedefiddle Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Good Morning, You can adjust it in and out. Try this, try that. You will find that the Propane spray nozzle MUST BE DEAD Center. Some use a flare, some don't. If you put the burner too far in, the end will burn off with No Gain. If you put your localle in your Avatar, maybe there is someone who you can get advise from, local to you. Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastershimself Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Hello, Mounting the burner into the forge; Weld a pipe (as a sleeve) over your burner opening(on the forge) and tap a few bolts in the sleeve for adjustment. This will allow you to move your burner in and out for adjustment as you see fit. The sleeve should be just large enough for you to get your burner down through. Burner flare; the burner flare is usually an essential part of the burner. It should also be tapped on with a set screw so you can adjust it on the burner tip. The adjustment of your burner inside your forge and the adjustment of your burner flare are needed to get the most proficient flame. So however you plan to fasten the burner, allow for adjustment. Also, even if your flare is barely inside the forge, it will get real hot. Many choose to use a stainless flare for this reason. You can also find good ideas looking at flare pictures through the images section of google search.. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Cochran Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I opened this thinking you were building a 6" burner and wondering what you were planning on heating with it. Looks like you're building a smaller one like perhaps a 1" burner. If you read some more in the gas forges section (where this post should be) you might find some useful suggestions there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mcclain Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 Sorry my bad it's a 6-inch T burner 3/4 inch and all the ads and information I can find on it tells how to build it but does not say what the flare is made out of and also how far it protrudes down in to the forge . And also if I should weld it to my tank or Forge using a barbecue propane tank for my Forge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodnMetalGuy Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 See this page for some information on the flare: http://zoellerforge.com/flare.html I made mine out of a section of pipe the size that fits over 3/4". Made a form with 12 degree taper on the metal lathe, and heated and pounded until it was flared the appropriate amount, which is not much, maybe 1/8" wider at the mouth end. -- Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I just use a thread protector rather than a "flare". You don't want the burner protruding into the forge, stop the tip of the burner just inside the refractory liner. Make the burner port (hole in the liner) just larger than the OD of the "flare" or thread protector. 1/4" larger dia. is good, 1/2" is pushing too much. And yeah, rigidize and put a flame face of hard refractory in the burner port or it'll just burn out. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mcclain Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 Thanks frosty. But I'm not sure what ur calling a threaded protector. I seen your post and if I'm right u said not a coupling the only thing that I have seen as far as a thread protector is plastic. .also is it hurting anything that I am putting my burner in almost horizontal instead of straight down. Thanks again. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Thread protectors here are steel internally threaded from both ends. The HVAC plumbing supply at the end of our road has buckets of thread protectors and give them to me when I ask to be rid of them. I'm not familiar with plastic thread protectors but you aren't the first to talk about them. Maybe it's big box stores or where live. Everything here comes a long way. Couplers work but they're WAY thicker and more expensive than one of Larry's SS flares so I've never spent money on a coupler. No problem mounting the burners horizontally, there are advantages, they don't chimney heat when you shut the forge down so they don't get so hot and you can use rubber hose to the burner. I use copper for the final fuel supply because the burners are vertical and when I shut them off they get hot as can be. Now I have practice and a roll of 1/4" copper tubing that's how I plumb all mine. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mcclain Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Thanks again frosty. Can't wait to get fired up! Thanks & God bless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mcclain Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Thanks again for all the info.To all my forging friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mcclain Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 3/4 x 6" what psi should I use. Will 0-20 psi regulator be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 You're welcome. Everybody gets hung up on what PSI their burner SHOULD run. It'll run best for the job at hand in YOUR location in YOUR forge at the PSI it runs best. Forget what psi other people's forges run. There are too many variables for other folk's burners and forges to matter to you. This is why you need to tune your burner preferably IN your forge. Lots of guys bench test a burner and ask help because it isn't working properly in the forge. Tune it in the forge so it burns as you need it. That may sound harsh but it's the reality of home built things. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mcclain Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Thanks frosty . I just didn't know if 20 psi regulator would be enough also I've run into another problem my quarter by I will not let my hose attached from the propane tank I need 3/8 by 1/8 I think 1/4 × 1/8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzkill Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 In my experience an adjustable 20 psi regulator should be fine. As Frosty said you need to tune and adjust for your specific forge and location, but if you can't get the heat you need with less than 20 psi chances are you don't have the burner tuned correctly or your forge is too big or of poor construction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mcclain Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Cool I was buying a regulator with a 10-foot hose and that said 0 to 20 psi I just wanted to make sure that it would work but I'm builting Frosty's 3/4 ×6 burner he's calling for a 1/8 or 1/4 and the hose that I'm ordering is a 3/8 so I reckon I have to get a fitting to work for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Cochran Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Where do you see '1/8 OR 1/4' in the plans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frosty Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 You're looking at the fuel supply line to the jet fitting. I use 1/4" copper line. HOWEVER the easiest way I know of to mount a mig contact tip for the gas jet is to thread a 1/8" Male Pipe thread fitting. it's ID (Inside Diameter) is close enough to either tap directly or chase with the Correct diameter drill bit and tap. Once tapped the fitting will screw into the Pipe T via the 1/8" MPT tapped hole in the T. The side of the fitting sticking up in the air can be whatever one suits your needs. I didn't then nor am I now going to draw every possibility. I believe guys using hose connections can attach to a 1/4" male pipe fitting. Do NOT quote me my memory is suspect, take your hose fitting to the shop and find one that works. There are any number of ways to mount the jet, I included this one in the plans I've posted here as the one that requires the least shop equipment and shop skills. The T burner is the easiest reasonably effective propane burner I could come up with to help guys get working. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mcclain Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Got you I didn't mean no disrespect I appreciate you add your post and your time texting me I just didn't understand how you had yours hooked I was going straight from the propane tank with a barbecue hose . Thank you for your time and info. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 With the BBQ regulator or just the hose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mcclain Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 I assume both I ordered it of Amazon.com and it's under BBQ and it doesn't say anything about what size fitting just says 0 to 20 psi regulator and 10' hose . And just to be safe I made two burners 1 with 1/4 &1 with 3/8 that way I'll be ready lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I didn't catch anything I could take as disrespect on an especially crabby day. A 0-20 psi. reg is what's been on mine for a good 25 years or so. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mcclain Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Well got her all fired up finally. But not so sure that I should have put burnner in side instead of top my main heat is to one side and also having a issue with lighting have to turn regulator down an ease it to higher pressure which is max on 20 psi regulator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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