October 12, 201510 yr GOOD threadI have the same hammer I started to rebuild it along long time ago its still sitting outside waiting for some LoveI had new slides made - clean & painted PH I need to forge out new eye spring bolts -- & was going to replace the leaf springspack & rework the brake set up better also -- WELL then I got a small air hammer LOL Now were looking for more powerso thinking of getting her back in the shop & finish her up this winter when the rain hits for you're pulley shaft instead of Babbitt I have seen Teflon or UHMB plastic I think thats the name used sp ? the lumber mills use it hear alot for slides & other use's have it machined out & it will never wear outthe babbitt in mine is in good shape so one less problem
October 12, 201510 yr Author Ironwolf, I say bring that poor thing inside and make it live again. Please post some pics when you do. As for the bearings, call me old fashion but I plan to pour new babbitt.
October 13, 201510 yr It is UHMW ; ultra high molecular weight . I used quite a bit as wear strips on bottling lines. The problem I had with it is that it will absorb moisture, and warp. Delrin is used for bearings, and more stable , besides being much nicer to machine. There are other engineering plastics out now that will out perform hardened steel in certain applications.
October 13, 201510 yr Author The crank plate, tup and pulley are painted. Also made a new toggle pin, spring tempered 5160. What's the general consensus on motor HP? I was thinking 2 hp would be plenty since my other hammer is only 5 lbs lighter and runs a 1.5 hp. Edited October 13, 201510 yr by Joel Worley
October 14, 201510 yr Author Thanks Judson. Anyone have any thoughts on RPM and drive pulley diameter?
October 17, 201510 yr Author Hey Judson Yaggy, any chance you could get me some detailed measurements of the spring? Length of each leaf, distance center of eye to center of eye, width, belly depth and any other measurement you can think of. The guy that I asked to get the measurements for me is buried with orders and can't break loose to go to his friends shop to get them right away. Also it would be very helpful to get dimensions from more than one source. The spring shop that will be making the spring needs the best drawing and as many measurements that I can come up with. It would be much appreciated. Thanks.
October 18, 201510 yr Author I got the new shaft turned down today. Next I need to cut the key way for the crank plate.
December 11, 201510 yr The new spring I had made arrived today. Thanks again for the drawings IronWolf.
December 12, 201510 yr Author The spring came from the spring shop a full three inches wide. To make it match the original, I had to trim it down to 2 1/4" at the eyes. Doing this myself rather than paying the spring shop to do it saved me $90. The key ways are cut in the shaft and ready to go. Since the pulley was a little wobbled out, I had it bored, sleeved and a key way broached in with an extra set bolt on the opposite side. I don't think I will have any problems with it spinning on the shaft.
December 13, 201510 yr LOOKING good Joel !! springs look like mine what did they charge you to make the spring pack ? Or was it a per spring charge ?
December 14, 201510 yr Author Thanks IronWolf. They did a great job. Including shipping, they charged me $185. I couldn't have made it myself for that price. If anyone needs a spring made, Blacks Spring Service in Ohio is the way to go.
December 14, 201510 yr I will have to clean up & take a better look @ my spring pack & see if I need to do something / replace ?
December 14, 201510 yr Author I still need to fabricate a few more parts but other than that, the only thing I need is time to work on it.
December 15, 201510 yr Greetings Joel, Looks like you have your restoration going your way, Great job.. I too have a Champion to restore and if you would PM me more info on Blacks Spring . Thanx in advance.. Forge on and make beautiful things Jim
December 15, 201510 yr Author Jim Coke and ThomasPowers. Blacks Spring Sevice, They are in Zanesville Oh. I found them with a google search. Their number is (740)452-9256. Ask for Tom. I'll call and make sure they kept the drawing I sent them.
December 15, 201510 yr OH I see a Champing PH club starting Now who s is older LOL ? mite have you all beat gona have to ck though LOL Hay Mike Hr ck out Gareys out for a date someday the one I have still that is apart was the only hammer here in the county from a smith shop in town from 1930 eara so i understand -- untill I got a #33 yang since then I have been out done by a friend down the road more power , though still need to get the champion going Just need more shop !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
December 15, 201510 yr I will look @ mine today & see I think it was 1901 on mine ? near the bottom if I remember LOL right
December 15, 201510 yr Greetings Joel, Looks like you have your restoration going your way, Great job.. I too have a Champion to restore and if you would PM me more info on Blacks Spring . Thanx in advance.. Forge on and make beautiful things Jim Mine is. No. 0 July 1901
January 1, 201610 yr Author Happy New Year! Today feels like a good day to pour the new babbitt bearings. Let the preheating begin. Here are the leather shims we made in place to get the bearing thickness needed.
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