ironwolfforgeca Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 GOOD threadI have the same hammer I started to rebuild it along long time ago its still sitting outside waiting for some LoveI had new slides made - clean & painted PH I need to forge out new eye spring bolts -- & was going to replace the leaf springspack & rework the brake set up better also -- WELL then I got a small air hammer LOL Now were looking for more powerso thinking of getting her back in the shop & finish her up this winter when the rain hits for you're pulley shaft instead of Babbitt I have seen Teflon or UHMB plastic I think thats the name used sp ? the lumber mills use it hear alot for slides & other use's have it machined out & it will never wear outthe babbitt in mine is in good shape so one less problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Worley Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Ironwolf, I say bring that poor thing inside and make it live again. Please post some pics when you do. As for the bearings, call me old fashion but I plan to pour new babbitt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwolfforgeca Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 that my MAIN problem theirs no inside left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 It is UHMW ; ultra high molecular weight . I used quite a bit as wear strips on bottling lines. The problem I had with it is that it will absorb moisture, and warp. Delrin is used for bearings, and more stable , besides being much nicer to machine. There are other engineering plastics out now that will out perform hardened steel in certain applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Worley Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) The crank plate, tup and pulley are painted. Also made a new toggle pin, spring tempered 5160. What's the general consensus on motor HP? I was thinking 2 hp would be plenty since my other hammer is only 5 lbs lighter and runs a 1.5 hp. Edited October 13, 2015 by Joel Worley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Yaggy Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 2 hp should be plenty if nothings binding and the hammer is well lubed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Worley Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Thanks Judson. Anyone have any thoughts on RPM and drive pulley diameter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Worley Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Hey Judson Yaggy, any chance you could get me some detailed measurements of the spring? Length of each leaf, distance center of eye to center of eye, width, belly depth and any other measurement you can think of. The guy that I asked to get the measurements for me is buried with orders and can't break loose to go to his friends shop to get them right away. Also it would be very helpful to get dimensions from more than one source. The spring shop that will be making the spring needs the best drawing and as many measurements that I can come up with. It would be much appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Worley Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 I got the new shaft turned down today. Next I need to cut the key way for the crank plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelworley Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 The new spring I had made arrived today. Thanks again for the drawings IronWolf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 hope you have a mustache worthy of your hammer's spring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Worley Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 The spring came from the spring shop a full three inches wide. To make it match the original, I had to trim it down to 2 1/4" at the eyes. Doing this myself rather than paying the spring shop to do it saved me $90. The key ways are cut in the shaft and ready to go. Since the pulley was a little wobbled out, I had it bored, sleeved and a key way broached in with an extra set bolt on the opposite side. I don't think I will have any problems with it spinning on the shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwolfforgeca Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 LOOKING good Joel !! springs look like mine what did they charge you to make the spring pack ? Or was it a per spring charge ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Worley Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 Thanks IronWolf. They did a great job. Including shipping, they charged me $185. I couldn't have made it myself for that price. If anyone needs a spring made, Blacks Spring Service in Ohio is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwolfforgeca Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I will have to clean up & take a better look @ my spring pack & see if I need to do something / replace ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Worley Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 I still need to fabricate a few more parts but other than that, the only thing I need is time to work on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Greetings Joel, Looks like you have your restoration going your way, Great job.. I too have a Champion to restore and if you would PM me more info on Blacks Spring . Thanx in advance.. Forge on and make beautiful things Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I have 2 #1's to rebuild and would like such information myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Worley Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 Jim Coke and ThomasPowers. Blacks Spring Sevice, They are in Zanesville Oh. I found them with a google search. Their number is (740)452-9256. Ask for Tom. I'll call and make sure they kept the drawing I sent them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwolfforgeca Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 OH I see a Champing PH club starting Now who s is older LOL ? mite have you all beat gona have to ck though LOL Hay Mike Hr ck out Gareys out for a date someday the one I have still that is apart was the only hammer here in the county from a smith shop in town from 1930 eara so i understand -- untill I got a #33 yang since then I have been out done by a friend down the road more power , though still need to get the champion going Just need more shop !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Worley Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 Where is the manufacture date located? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwolfforgeca Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I will look @ mine today & see I think it was 1901 on mine ? near the bottom if I remember LOL right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Be the weekend before I am colocated with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Greetings Joel, Looks like you have your restoration going your way, Great job.. I too have a Champion to restore and if you would PM me more info on Blacks Spring . Thanx in advance.. Forge on and make beautiful things Jim Mine is. No. 0 July 1901 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Worley Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 Happy New Year! Today feels like a good day to pour the new babbitt bearings. Let the preheating begin. Here are the leather shims we made in place to get the bearing thickness needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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