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Hello all. I am rebuilding a Champion #1 power hammer. I will have to fabricate several parts. I have found a spring shop that can make the spring but only if I provide them with a very detailed drawing with accurate measurements. If anyone owns a Champion #1 and could send me some measurements of the spring and toggle arms, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Thanks Thomas. I found someone who will be sending me a tracing with pictures and measurements and a Draftsman friend is going to draw up a print for the spring shop. Also, I added my location and more info to my profile. I tried to post a picture but it came up side ways. My computer illiteracy is showing.:)

 

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I am planning to speak with the spring shop about possibly making several sets of springs in the future. I want to get the first one on my hammer and make sure it is what it needs to be before I commission more to be made. I am sure there are others out there that will eventually need to replace the spring on a Champion and it would be nice to see them available.

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Welcome aboard Joel glad to have you. You aren't going to have much of a market for your springs. It's a good thought but you can buy new from Little Giant. Probably get factory blue prints, parts lists are in the manual, available from them too. Someone will have to tell you who the new owner is since Sid retired, I don't recall.

Do you have a copy of, "The Little Giant Powerhammer," by Richard Kern? If you're going to be rebuilding one it's a must have it has detailed step by step illustrated instructions for rebuilding Champs.

We love pics, please post step by step pics of your rebuild.

Frosty The Lucky.

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Frosty. Thanks for the welcome. I'm glad to be a part of the forum. I don't think Little giant sells parts for Champion power hammers. If I had a LG , finding parts would not be an issue as I know a couple of people who rebuild a lot of them. Parts for the Champion power hammers, as far as I know, don't exist unless you can find them used and if there is a manual that includes the Champion hammer please let me know where I can get a copy, I'd love to own it. This is the reason for getting a few extra spring packs made. I don't think there is a high demand but It would be nice if people could have access to them if someone were to need one. Most other parts can be fabricated by any decent machinist. The trouble with the spring pack is that although I can make the leaf spring, fitting it in my heat treat oven after it has been bent to shape is not possible as it is designed for knives and not wide enough to accommodate the deep bend of the spring. I figure if I have to send it out to be heat treated, I may as well have a professional spring shop just do the whole thing and save myself the time and trouble of making a special bending jig.                                                                                                                                                                                   Also, I would love to post some pictures but when I tried, they came up side ways. What am I doing wrong?

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Thomas, I'm on the board at SOFA and Quad State is where I got the hammer. Trust me, I looked for a spring and asked a couple of people who are very good at rebuilding power hammers if they would like to rebuild it. They seemed like they weren't to keen on trying to track down parts and I don't blame them. That and even if I had someone rebuild it, the cost would be a lot more than an average Little Giant job. Also, I'm really enjoying diving into this project. Here's a few pictures. The hammer when I got it, as I started to tear it down soaking in degreaser, My son cleaning it, a coat of primer and finally two coats of O.D. green. Please forgive the side ways photos.

 

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Right you are Joel and you said Champion repeatedly. I'm blaming the tree for getting one thing stuck in my mind while talking about something else.

My bad. <sigh>

The book's pretty easy to find you see it on Amazon pretty often, not that I look myself I've had a copy for several years now.

Frosty The Lucky.

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When you said spring, I had coil spring in mind.  If its a leaf spring they're a lot easier to have made and you probably won't be incurring the big setup charge.

Back when my dad had his diesel repair shop I'd work there summers doing parts runs and cleaning up.  Sometimes I'd go to the spring shop and enter this noisy, darkened shop with furnaces going and people making all sorts of giant springs and then dipping them in tar for corrosion protection.

A few years ago when I needed a spring I drove to the old place and found a block of luxury condos.  No more spring shops here, the land is too valuable.

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I lived in Columbus OH for 15 years and was a SOFA member and every couple of years we drive back to go to Quad-State (and the Wool Gathering and see the kids and grandkids in Columbus...)  I bought my first Champion#1 in Ohio US$700 in running condition from an old farrier whose wife "retired" him.

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That's kinda what I thought, Frosty. I do that all the time. I think the spring shop that I found in Ohio will do a very good job judging from the conversation I had with them over the phone.

They just need to know the size, arc and shackle method/size. Any good spring shop can knock these out easy peasy.

Frosty The Lucky.

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Today I got the crank plate and pulley off of the shaft. It was no easy task. The shaft was from a Little Giant and was slightly smaller than the original and someone had attempted to weld the pulley in place and had peened the end to hold the crank plate in place. At last the LG parts are not a part of the Champion Hammer. The pulley has a very old break on the hub and a small chunk missing from the flange but I think it can still be used. 

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I may be doing a trade for a #1, so I would be interested in seeing how you pour the babbit bearings.

The outer spring has been replaced on the one I am looking at, and it is narrower than the original by a little bit.

xxxx, still cannot post a pic, keep getting the -200 error......

 

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After a some consideration, I think it would be best to move the original pulley to the rear of the hammer, relocate the idler pulley and mount the motor near the floor as on the E- models. This decision is mostly due to the fact that I have a low ceiling in my shop and the spot I am planning to put the hammer is even more limited on head room as it sits between the tracks of two over head doors. If I mount the motor or even a jack shaft above the hammer, it will have to sit tight between the tracks, limiting even further how I can position the hammer. Since I am making a new shaft it won't be a big deal to set it up with the pulley on the back. Does anyone have this set up on their Champion? If so I'd love to hear some thoughts on motor mounting options. 

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