Xaiver Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 They're not the most beautiful, and the rivet didn't close properly, so it's more bent over than riveted... But they hold 1" bar stock perfectly. That was the goal. So... How did I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedefiddle Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Good Morning,Way better than what you had before!! AA++ for trying.For the material you are using, I would upset a section for the Hinge area (where the rivet goes through). The normal mistake when setting the rivet is to do it too cold, or with a large hammer. I use a slightly smaller hammer when I am setting rivets.Keep your first Tongs, in twenty years you will look back and say....................Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaiver Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Two questions on that : the rivet didn't go in smoothly, so I rounded it a bit and then worked it in while it was warm. Then I warmed the whole thing until the rivet was hot again and gave it a couple hits with my 2 pound hammer... And it bent over instead of mushrooming. Is there a way to upset something that isn't on the end? Or is that justheating the shot you want upset and then doing as normal? Also, are you saying that I should have taken it slower setting the rivet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Heading a rivet is upsetting. Neil means use a LIGHT hammer, 8oz or smaller is what I use. If you have a torch that works about as well as anything I know of.The stick out you're going to head should be about 1.5 times the rivet's diameter. for example a 1/4" dia rivet should have 3/8" protruding to pein for the rivet head.My the way, your first tongs look WAY better than mine and mine don't hold anything perfectly, barely is more accurate.Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 way to long of a rivit. but tongs look good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkie Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Tongs look fine, they came out like what you wanted. If you are disgruntled with the rivet, just cut it off or drill it out, make another with Frosty's suggestions for the rivet "stickout", etc. on each side and make another! Practice makes perfect. I've drilled out a rivet or two that looked like Fido's B*tt and replaced them. One thing I did when I first started riveting tongs was to get some scrap steel bars about 1/4" to 3/8" thick and an inch or so wide, drill holes for your rivet size(s) in several places and practice riveting the scrap bars together. Then when it's "showtime", you'll have riveting down much better. Edited August 18, 2015 by arkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 If they hold your steel firmly and safely, they are good tongs. I would be inclined to cut the rivet off and have another go using a shorter rivet. Carry on ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 is that rivet also loose in the hole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaiver Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 Nope. Snug is a good descriptor. It's not so tight that the tool is stiff, but there isn't any wobble in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarry Dog Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I like the look I get from cold setting rivets, but it is such an everloving pain to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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