TheoRockNazz Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) Just a head's up; this is a work-in-progress post that's pretty picture heavy.March 20th through 31st my girlfriend and I traveled to Cyprus on vacation... with additional ulterior motives. She was featured in a motion graphics and animation festival hosted at the European University Cyprus, shortlisted to the top of her category. She is also addicted to anthropology. I went there for inspiration on my next blade, and to get my hands on old iron and steel. We traveled the country visiting historical sites and landmarks. The Gladiator's house provided many inspiring mosaics. Sadly, museums lacked when it came to ancient weaponry, although often exhibited a wide range of styles due to the many forces that had occupied Cyprus over time (although I must admit I am spoiled by living in NYC a train ride from the Met).Occasionally we were able to visit the shops of fellow craftsmen. Everyone there is extremely friendly, and will serve you tea while telling you of their family.Got to visit a fellow blacksmith in Nicosia, wonderful gentleman that's seen his country go through many drastic changes.Oh, and there are cats everywhere... we love cats :3I found a goodly lot of usable metal. The machete was found in the sub-basement of an antique-restorer's home, and has seen some serious use. The scythe was the least decrepit of what I could find in Nicosia. The pony and horse shoes look to be fairly old and used, with the nail still hanging onto the larger one. The prize find was an iron ring used to weigh large loads - still has Greek lettering on the surface. The door hinge (like the shoes and scythe) came from the dark corner of one or another antique store.One of the shops I visited was a woodworker that conveniently had recently taken down a 200-300 year old olive tree and had the perfect pieces of seasoned wood for me... for $12 I got three small blocks perfect for a knife handle each, and a huge chunk 9.5" x 12" x 2". I tried to explain to him how hard/expensive it would have been to get all of that back in America, but to them olive trees are all over and can be a hindrance. Lastly, I visited a leatherworker that sold me a piece of goat leather that stood out to me, and passed off some scraps with the fut still on I'm thinking of using for a detail on the sheath. I very much like his product and want to use it for my day job (product designer) creations too.Currently the metal is sitting in vinegar to strip some of the nasties away.Initially I wanted to forge a gladius or xiphos, but my personal preference towards Anglo-saxon skull-splitters let me to the kopis. I am thinking of patternwelding the machete with 15n20 and forge-welding the iron as the spine. The scythe and horseshoes could be used to forge a sister blade if the demand is there.The blade's tang will travel down through the pommel and become the horses' mane. The horse head and mosaic pattern will be 3D modeled to appear as if they are sculpted from tiles, then 3D printed in brass or bronze. The olive wood I picked up will obviously be used for the grip (with the Greek pattern embedded). Comments and critique welcomed,Theo Edited April 7, 2015 by TheoRockNazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Wow, what a trip Theo! Did you frame the pic of the helmets to show your girlfriend in the reflection like she was wearing one?You to were sure grinning a lot good for you.Have you ever tried Naval Jelly to revert rust to steel/iron? Using it as directed it leaves a phosphorous oxide black finish but I found diluting it in clean water, letting the rust soak and neutralizing with soda water and rinsing when finished often returned what looked like book pages of rust to clean steel/iron. It doesn't always work but might be worth a try on some of those antiquities. I've had less luck using dilute phosphoric acid but I believe the surfacants in Naval Jelly have a lot to do with it's effectiveness.Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoRockNazz Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 Haha, purely coincidence. My natural smile looks like a grin... has gotten me in trouble a couple times.So two days in vinegar took off some nasties, but I'll still hit it with the turbodisk to get rid of the final bits. Date showed up on the machete; 1914, so that answers that.The markings on the weight are still illegible to me, but seeing how it's a weight... probably it's weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Uh HUH. MY natural smile IS a grin. Get used to being in trouble it ain't so bad. My sense of humor is my armor against how terrifying the world is for those with wit to understand so I Joke."Those who matter don't mind, those who mind don't matter." Might be a bit simplistic but it works for me.Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benton Frisse Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Awesome trip, Theo! Thanks for the post full of good stuff. Keep us posted on the blade, yeah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoRockNazz Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 FINALLY had the opportunity to start working that old iron.I need some advice from folks with more experience than myself at working iron:It moves and works like some of the wrought iron and pure iron I have forged in the past, and isn't cracking or falling apart like when you hammer iron or meteorite too cold... but I noticed if I try hard I can tear it.I first noticed this when I used the edge of the anvil to cut, it sort of tore the final bit through. Impossible to take pics of, but it looked to me like when you beat the snot out of copper without annealing it, then bend it til it tears... except with fibers/strands like torn leather. Afterwards I continued to work the metal with no issues, and no signs of tearing or cracking elsewhere.This has got to be because of the impurities in the metal - it is well over 500 years old - right? Has anyone seen/heard of this before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Fibrous breaks are a classic sign of real wrought iron. Also merchant bar grade of real wrought iron has a tendency to fail along the various weld lines that make it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoRockNazz Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hmm, guess I've been spoiled with the relatively modern iron I've worked with hahaShould I fold it a couple times to try and unify the piece, or keep it as is and run with whatever intense grain pattern I get? I was going to twist it and use it for the spine, so impurities would matter less and maybe lend to the pattern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Yes (depending on what you want out of it...) If it's very coarse some refining will help. Twisting will show a more interesting pattern and help with propagation of weld issues. Either way work it at welding temps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_713 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 so you struck up a deal with the Man to send you blocks of olive wood in exchange for currency righhttttt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoRockNazz Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 Unfortunately he never reached out to me - he didn't give me a business card or email or even a phone. It's my fault for not asking for one, but he seemed so interested in the deal I thought it'd be a sure thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoRockNazz Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 FINALLY got around to slicing up the billet I made. The pattern aint perfect, but neither am I. Got a bunch of slices to use - I am now thinking of forge-welding them on to a blade as bolsters and pommel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Ooh, pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Oly, WA Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Sounds like you had an interesting and rewarding vacation. I look forward to seeing the knife you create - the design looks nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will W. Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Whoa! The little slice of that billet is awesome! Keep going, Theo, I for one am very excited to see how this turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoRockNazz Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 Just got back from another vacation with my wife, so felt the pressure to get something done with the kopis project. I call it a "san mai lazy mosaic", basically skipped a step and didn't properly tile the slices. Kinda looks like camouflage. Only rough ground, gotta reheat and tap the core/edge center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Wow, that is dramatic. Camo pattern is a good description. I'll be watching for the finished blade. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 A little refinement of the process and you would have digital camo mosaic san mai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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