braselforge Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 i was wondering if it is possible to build a powerhammer(preferably not very huge, i dont have the room) or a hydraulic press for under 200 dollars, and if so where to possibly get the plans, or where a tutorial is. much appreciated if you could help, been wantin to make some damascus, il post a pic of the ones i was thinking of (size comparason) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptree Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 If you are a very good scrounger, and can weld and do light machining with a drill press, yes. I built my hammer in 2002, and it was a 32# Palmer patent style, that many call a Rusty. I had $43 US then. I suspect that if I needed to start today, I could do it for less than $200 easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braselforge Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 ey ptree, is tere free plans anywere of te powerammer many all rusty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyGeorge Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I built my tire hammer for about $50 US. That was about 3 years ago. I scrounged parts for about a year before I finally had everything that I needed. My "blue prints" were pictures of other guys tire hammers on IFI. I had no measurements but guessed at them from the pics. I had to make a couple of adjustments. But it works, now, and it is a life saver when doing a large order using heavy material. :) There are plans available for the Clay Spencer tire hammer. Do a search on here or Google Clay Spencer Tire Hammer Plans. You won't regret making a power hammer. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccustomknives Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 CurlyGeorge, you are my hero! I saw that question and said to myself, self you haven't done that yet. ;) If one want's to do something cheap, don't get in a hurry. Everthing comes to he who waits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyGeorge Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 LOL. Don't know about being a hero. But I WAS patient. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dablacksmith Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 junk yard hammers ... i know at one time there were a bunch of them made from leftovers layin around but there are no plans you have to figure want ya got and make it work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacock Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 If your building to someones plans it most likely will cost you more as you wil have to get hold of what they used. If your going on the cheap you take what you got and figure out what else you have to dig up to make it work. One way to start is take the motor you have and build from that. You really can't build a 100#er with a 1/2 hp motor etc. Grant would have called it vise grip enginering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 the short answer is yes. as for press the air over you need to be in the 30 ton range so that will price you out. there is always starting by making a treadle hammer then as you get more stuff adding a drive train to it. that is the way to go. build something that you can add on to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 My little powerhammer got more wood in it than steel, and I've spend about $75. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Being that we are blacksmiths what do we need plans for, we are the mothers(or fathers) of invention. Just start with a picture and go from there, you can't do any more than have to do a few tweaks to it along the way. Think of all the fun you'll have! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Hale Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 it really depends on you and wot you have as experience and wot equipment you have. If you have a drill press,,the right size drills. a grin dre that can be used to cut metal and clean up welds..A welder and the ability to use it well. And if you have transportation to find and gather up materials you have a start. yoku also will be way ahead of the game to fins someone with a hammer and beg a visit,,look it over and take pics and measurements if that does not overstay your welcome. If youi have none of these things or few you may not be able to build one at any price. It is way pricey to build somthing with the wrong materials and have it not do wot youi wish. May end up those materials will not be reusable..All that said if youi are up to it and craftly it may work well. And of course if you do not know how to move metal with a hand hammer a power hammer will allow you to destroy a billet much faster,,,,lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 i am building a rusty type hammer and think that starting with the anvil is the way to go,its weight will give you the ram weight shoot for 10 to 1 min.also the height of the anvil leads to setting the guide hight, and main post that the springs piviet on its height also,the distance between the piviet point and the center of the anvil or bottom die helps set the length of the springs (plus extra as they travel in an ark and need to pass through rollers on the ram).as others have said use every ones home built as a guide and go for it .search ifi for danish krusty its a good thread with a vid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Yates Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 It looks as if we have two threads of the same thing Looking for different answers ? Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian.pierson Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Here is a set of plans that a smith in Switerland drew up and used to build a (k)rusty style hammer with. It is in metric sizing but easy enough to convert. http://www.ferrumdg.com/en/knives-swords/know-how/288-krusty-the-mechanical-powerhammer I don't know if you can do it for under $200 but it is a starting spot for you to decide from. Brian Pierson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braselforge Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 samcro i posted the hydraulic press under presses and this under hammers, so it would be under the right one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Yates Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 OK was wondering Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Can it be done? Yes. Can you do it? not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Yaggy Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Yes, if you own or can borrow $1k worth of the right tools. Torch kit, saw, drill press, welder. Your milage may vary, if you spend time collecting good cheap tools and good cheap scrap steel you could do it for $200, but it will take time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryM Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If you can dream it I can build it. So if I can do it you can do it. BTW you might what to update your profile let us know where you are located. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Jackson Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 The Clay Spencer's tire hammer mention earlier is a 50Lbs is there any significant limitations to it, or is the typical size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernironworks Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 you can build a kinyon type powered hammer for under $200 but you need a welder to assemble and you would also need an air compressor to run it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braselforge Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 where can you get plans for the kinyon powerhammer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Larson Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 A kinyon style requires pneumatic components that are usually ill-sized when scrounged. It is very unlikely you can piece one together with scrounged parts at 200 dollars. The frame yes, the critical parts no. That is why mechanical hammers are so popular IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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