nonjic Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I have mentioned a few times on this forum that the Massey 'Clear Space' Hammers have very good single blow control (like the steam hammers) - I have recently installed a fully restored 2 cwt (110 kg ram) Machine for my own use (actually this one is going to a customer, but I have another one which will take its place on the foundation) This is quite an upgrade from the 33lb Anyang I have been using as 'my' hammer for the last 4 years I only put the power leads to the motor yesterday, and was having a play last night. This video is just to demonstrate the control (I was impressed so took a video!) When I get to know the machine a little better I will try again with the watch 'hard' on the anvil!! I will put update this thread with some forging videos when the installation is complete. (the hammer is not quite finished yet, all the external bits are going for chrome, and the paints not finished yet.)http://youtu.be/RZDyjiOGv2Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Can't do much forging with THAT! :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron woodrow Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 very nice control! so steam hammers traditionally control like this? i have another thread, to gain steam hammer info, so as not to hijack this one, http://www.iforgeiron.com/topic/24983-ufsh-unidentified-flying-steam-hammer/ it will be good to see your #2 forging, when you put some more videos up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimenickel Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 that sure is a beaut ! about as good as it gets it'll be great to see it " stampin " some iron next time G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstermetal Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 John that is simply not acceptable, fair or just... Since there is very little hope of us state side ever owning such a fine and impressive machine I think you should just keep the videos to your self to spare us the suffering... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Yaggy Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 No, no Larry. Wrong approach. In the interest of fair, just and acceptable, he should send us one! That would fix everything. We could all post videos, equalizing the suffering across oceans. I humbly volunteer some valuable floor space in my shop, plus I'm closer to England than 95% of the smiths in the USA thus providing John great savings in the shipping costs. In fact, we should all start sending John our spare postage stamps, in a few years he should have enough to plaster the thing with them and mail it to our east coast. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNewman Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 No I think one would look nice sitting across from it's big brother in my shop. It might feel out of place in a shop without another English hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Furrer Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Very nice John.....some day.....and in that British Green as well. How many of those fit into a cargo container? That was the yellow one you bought via Ebay years ago? Ric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Miller Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I have heard over the years form people who worked with them that Masseys were the best self contained hammers ever made. Is this true? and if so what makes the superior other hammers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Traylor Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Go to machinetools.com > forging machines > forging hammers. You will be in hammer heaven with Beche, Alldays, Massey, and dozens of others located all over the world and priced just enticingly attractive enough to make you want to load up a boat. Remember ocean freight is fairly reasonable. Everyone could have his very own fine and impressive machine and the world would be free of machine envy. Tommy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonjic Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 There is some slick valving inside the Massey 'Clear Space' - It pumps up an internal air resovoir which is then used for the single blows. This type of hammer was made with ram weights up to #4500 lbs. This is a 10 cwt (#1100lb) we overhauled earlier this year, you can see the relationship between hand lever and ram motion a bit better on this clip. (tempory 'anvil' for test purposes!)http://youtu.be/IagkeQSzVWc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Looks great John. How long does it normally take to rebuild an old massey then? Incidentally, do you know why the 3 cwt has so much more 'blow energy' than the 2 cwt? I would have thought it would be about 50% more, but its 450 kgm versus 200 kgm? Cheers, Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I am guessing the bigger hammers have a slightly longer stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron woodrow Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 old thread, still love it, and worth the read ;) what is the weight of the parts of a 2CWT? I might be making an offer on one next month, and I would like to have the appropriate info up my sleeve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJP Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 woodrow you could have ask me -_- total 3.5 t ,anvil 1t motor .25t :unsure: hope God will confirm this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Larson Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Thanks for renewing this post's position in the thread. It is all new to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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