FieryFurnace Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 number three for me Not a commission. Just a display piece for shows. What would be the technical name for a curve like this? The tenons were done cold as I do not have a torch and there was no way to do them hot. I took time to square the sholders by filing, and it took about five minutes to tweak the whole thing after the tenons were set. It was VERY CLOSE to perfect! You can fit fourteen sliding hooks on this thing. Thoughts??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 What is the asking price? Looks excellent! What are the dimensions, the drop off the ceiling and spacing for the hooks? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyGeorge Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Way to go, Dave!! Again, a very well thought out project and a very good job. That piece should bring in some orders. Thanks for sharing it with us. Keep up the great work. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyGeorge Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 One question. What did you use for the finish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That looks great!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many hours did you work on that??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieryFurnace Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Two days of work, $10.00 materials, I may ask about $250 for it. 2 feet long, 1 foot wide, the hooks are for display hanging but the rack will come with customized chain length for hanging. Current hook length is about 10-12 inches Finish is 80 grit then 220 grit sandpaper with Krylon glossy clear coat. The dark unsanded areas have graphite powder beneath the clear coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksnagel Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Dave, again a beautiful piece of work. That is a great display piece and as George said, it should fetch some orders. Good job. Mark <>< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 My wife likes it too. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian.pierson Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Dave, Nice work! I love the the way you have the hook rods to hang the from the ceiling. How would the custom length chain attach to the rack? Do you have a sample that you display at the shows for the client to see? Brian Pierson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arean Ellis Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I really like your design! Great job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Creek Blacksmith Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Dave Excellent job you baffle me with your designs, your work is so clean and sharp looking. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomN Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Beautiful and functional as well. Brilliant work! Could easily be used for a number of things. I think it would look great in a kitchen for hanging pots and pans from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Good job, Dave! The ends look like lambs tongues to me. Like on the end of a railing? A lot of people make these with links or rods that swing. I had clients complain about that so started making a solid mounting from the rack to the ceiling. You still have to mount it to the ceiling so I did twisted bars or decorated flat stock solid mounted from the rack and bolted into the ceiling. Some of them didn't have a beam lined up with the posts so I made a flat ceiling frame that attached to the beams and the rack mounted to that. Just another idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieryFurnace Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Thanks for the input and complements. I got the "lamb's tongue" idea from my recent class at John C Campbell. That's what the guy called them there too. However, I was hoping for a better sounding name for it. The top of the hanging hooks are open loops so that a chain link can be slipped on without difficulty. This is my sample that I will display for shows, although it will be for sale as well. Most of the time, it draws the eye and gets inquiries. I usually keep larger pieces like this out at shows to shew people that I can do more than hooks. It increases the possibility of custom orders and creates confidence in my ability. The "design" as it were, is simply an idea. No drawing, no lay out, no precise forging. Jus something I thought about for a while, I got tired of making hooks, and kazam.....two days later there was a pot rack. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KST1-Derek Fultz Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Looks great Dave! The wrapped rods connected to the rack had to be fun without a torch. -Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieryFurnace Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 I have a propane fat boy torch and it worked ok for the wrapping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsberg Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Hey Dave, That curve on the tapered inscribed flat stock looks a lot like a corn leaf to me, maybe that would go over better. Just curious as to why you didn't use curls on the tapered end of the pot hooks? Would they have gotten in the way of getting the handles of pots and pans on the hooks? Great looking piece! It would make a perfect hanger display for some hand forged ladles. . . Caleb Ramsby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieryFurnace Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Hey Dave, That curve on the tapered inscribed flat stock looks a lot like a corn leaf to me, maybe that would go over better. Just curious as to why you didn't use curls on the tapered end of the pot hooks? Would they have gotten in the way of getting the handles of pots and pans on the hooks? Great looking piece! It would make a perfect hanger display for some hand forged ladles. . . Caleb Ramsby I did an even diameter round hook without the final scroll because people THINK it will get in the way. For the majority of pots it would not, however, people are hesitant about hooks with finial scrolls. In the past I have done a dull taper without the finial, however, it just doesn't seem to look right. These look a little better, while still being small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsberg Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Hey Dave, Maybe you could make a hook or two with GIANT mushroom heads on them to make the finial scrolled hooks look smaller, you could say they are for holding doughnuts. HA! Hummm, blacksmithing out of spite, maybe not the wisest idea! I thought that I remembered some photos that you posted of your first or second rack and the hooks having a finial, that was why I was asking. Unfortunatly it is more often how people think something will work that dictates the design, more so then if it will actually work or not. Caleb Ramsby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Hi Dave, Good job, Here's another alternative hook end for you, could be bent outwards a tad more depending on the height at which the hanger is going to be positioned, this one was quite low, attached with offset brackets to a beam, with these short hanger hooks Some alternative ideas for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesteryearforge Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Nicely done Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbruce Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 It's a very nice piece, beautiful. I think most here would agree that $250 is not near enough......Please stay in Ky and far away from my decorator clients......... :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieryFurnace Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 I know new smiths can be a bit of a thorn for professional smiths with many years experience because of the pricing issue. I wish, I really wish, that I could demand the higher prices that are obtained by other smiths, but the bottom line is, I currently don't have the clientel. Perhaps I'll eventually obtain that higher clientel and be able to choose jobs and require those higher prices, but now is not that time. My goal is to never underprice or steal clients from other blacksmiths who can better serve and deserve those clients more than I do anyway. My goal is to establish a business, and I do not believe that I can start a business by jumping onto the top rung of the ladder. I'm still down here at ground level, and must charge accordingly. I hope everyone understands, and will not hold that against me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieryFurnace Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 Hey Dave, That curve on the tapered inscribed flat stock looks a lot like a corn leaf to me, maybe that would go over better. Caleb Ramsby Corn leaf sounds good. To me lamb's tongues is in the same group as calling a finial scroll a rats tail. Just doesn't sound all that great! Corn leaf! I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuge Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Nice work. How did you do the wraps without a torch? Man, you could use a torch. I might have one I could sell. It's the bottle's though, huh? Well put thoughts on your price schedule. One thing I hear from people is "I can't expect my clients to pay for my education" and I think that's rubbish. You are doing exactly that and it seems everybody's happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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