November 4, 200619 yr I have a document in Adobe titled "Metallurgy of Steel for Bladesmiths & Others who Heat Treat and Forge Steel", 200 + pages, By John D. Verhoeven Emeritus Professor, Iowa State University, March 2005. While it is extremely technical in nature, there are summaries of all the important points at the end of each chapter that are easy to understand and very clear and concise. It will help dispell some of the myths and alchemy associated with Knifemaking in particular and forging and heat treating steel in general. Also have an Adobe document "Experiments on Knife Sharpening", 55 + pages, September 2004 by the same author. If anyone is interested, please email me and I will send you a copy of one or both. Woody
November 6, 200619 yr Definitely an interest. Sent you a pm with the addy. Thanks for the offer. Edit: Have to add that is some great information. Though the 8mb file size might throw you off a bit. They are definitely a must have in my opinion. Thanks again for the information.
November 8, 200619 yr Woody anyway you can post this as a link to PDF ? So it can be downloaded directly from this thread. Possibly we can make this a sticky -Must read- for any beginning blade smith. Jens
November 8, 200619 yr Author Jens: I downloaded the documents a while back and I don't remember what site I got them from. I will do a little searching around and see what I can come up with. Woody
November 8, 200619 yr I found the link Woody, It can be downloaded here: http://mse.iastate.edu/files/verhoeven/7-5.pdf edit: (bad link - file not found) If you have DSL it only takes about 30 seconds , but 8.1 Megs on dial-up may be a little bit of a wait.
November 8, 200619 yr Author Hey Jens: I just came back in to post the link I found it too. I see he also has some articles on damascus blades, but they are published in a scientific magazine and you have to buy the book. Bet they would be interesting too. Woody
November 8, 200619 yr Hmm I didn't see those... And you haven't posted the links because Why ??? C'mon and post 'em Pretty please Woody Jens
November 9, 200619 yr This was quite a help for me to understand quite a bit more about metal. I have only picked out specific areas as the document is so large, there's a wealth of info in this. After seeing the chart on page 50, and talking to my instructor, a light kinda flipped on and I realized the 2nd 2 numbers are the carbon content in steel. The explaination of how the first 2 digits change depending on the alloy was also helpful. Yeah, I'm a bit green on metal, and even more reason I appreciate passing this on to the IFI folks. There's a lot of info in that doc. :D
December 17, 200619 yr Hello everyone,very new at this.Just wondered if anyone had an easy schematic for a charcoal forge for long blades? Thanks, and happy forging:)
December 26, 200619 yr i would be extremely interested in a copy of both of those documents my email is [email protected] thank you it will be a great help
December 26, 200619 yr You might wish to build something like this.Charcoal Forge You can build it to your specifications. They work pretty well, and he has a nice DVD available to teach you his way to make knives. Hope it helps, Mark
March 9, 200719 yr yes Woody I would like very much a copy of the above mentioned books,as I am exploring knife making now with interesting results in design my address [email protected]
March 10, 200719 yr Author Lorenco: Check page 1 of this thread for a reply by Oakwoodforge, there is a link listed there where you can download the material directly Woody
March 10, 200719 yr Lorenco: Check page 1 of this thread for a reply by Oakwoodforge, there is a link listed there where you can download the material directly Woody I just tried to download it and I'm getting a 404 error.
March 10, 200719 yr Yeah, that link doesnt work. This one does, though: http://www.feine-klingen.de/PDFs/verhoeven.pdf It will probably open in a PDF viewer, where you have to click "save a copy" or something similar.
July 31, 200718 yr Thans for the link, Tons of great info!!! My brain is still smoking..kinda hurts a little.
December 31, 200718 yr http://mse.iastate.edu/files/verhoeven/7-5.pdf the pdf has been archived as of May 2006http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://mse.iastate.edu/files/verhoeven/7-5.pdfYou can right-click and choose 'Save As...' for IE 7. and if you use firefox you can right click on any dead link with this extension and check 6 different caches including the waybackmachine at the internet archive thank you Woody and oakwoodforge ;)
December 31, 200718 yr direct link to Oakwoodforge's URL mentioned above Thanks Ice Czar for finding the reference.
January 26, 200818 yr Thank you Woody and oakwoodforge for the info. Thank you also to Glenn, Ice Czar, Torin & all others who helped with the links. I will dive in to this soon. Thanks again.
January 27, 200818 yr woody, could you send me "Experiments on Knife Sharpening". I already have the other one. my mail is: [email protected] Thank you very much!
August 20, 200817 yr Yeah I'd like "Experiments on Knife Sharpening" as well, can you send it to me as well? [email protected]
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