Woody Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I have a document in Adobe titled "Metallurgy of Steel for Bladesmiths & Others who Heat Treat and Forge Steel", 200 + pages, By John D. Verhoeven Emeritus Professor, Iowa State University, March 2005. While it is extremely technical in nature, there are summaries of all the important points at the end of each chapter that are easy to understand and very clear and concise. It will help dispell some of the myths and alchemy associated with Knifemaking in particular and forging and heat treating steel in general. Also have an Adobe document "Experiments on Knife Sharpening", 55 + pages, September 2004 by the same author. If anyone is interested, please email me and I will send you a copy of one or both. Woody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candidquality Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Definitely an interest. Sent you a pm with the addy. Thanks for the offer. Edit: Have to add that is some great information. Though the 8mb file size might throw you off a bit. They are definitely a must have in my opinion. Thanks again for the information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakwoodforge Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Woody anyway you can post this as a link to PDF ? So it can be downloaded directly from this thread. Possibly we can make this a sticky -Must read- for any beginning blade smith. Jens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted November 8, 2006 Author Share Posted November 8, 2006 Jens: I downloaded the documents a while back and I don't remember what site I got them from. I will do a little searching around and see what I can come up with. Woody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakwoodforge Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 I found the link Woody, It can be downloaded here: http://mse.iastate.edu/files/verhoeven/7-5.pdf edit: (bad link - file not found) If you have DSL it only takes about 30 seconds , but 8.1 Megs on dial-up may be a little bit of a wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted November 8, 2006 Author Share Posted November 8, 2006 Hey Jens: I just came back in to post the link I found it too. I see he also has some articles on damascus blades, but they are published in a scientific magazine and you have to buy the book. Bet they would be interesting too. Woody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakwoodforge Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Hmm I didn't see those... And you haven't posted the links because Why ??? C'mon and post 'em Pretty please Woody Jens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share Posted November 9, 2006 Jens: It was the same link you found. Woody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 hey thanks for the heat treat document! I'll be reading it a lot :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan DuBoff Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 This was quite a help for me to understand quite a bit more about metal. I have only picked out specific areas as the document is so large, there's a wealth of info in this. After seeing the chart on page 50, and talking to my instructor, a light kinda flipped on and I realized the 2nd 2 numbers are the carbon content in steel. The explaination of how the first 2 digits change depending on the alloy was also helpful. Yeah, I'm a bit green on metal, and even more reason I appreciate passing this on to the IFI folks. There's a lot of info in that doc. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Hello everyone,very new at this.Just wondered if anyone had an easy schematic for a charcoal forge for long blades? Thanks, and happy forging:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSai001 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 i would be extremely interested in a copy of both of those documents my email is nosai001@hotmail.com thank you it will be a great help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanterman Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 You might wish to build something like this.Charcoal Forge You can build it to your specifications. They work pretty well, and he has a nice DVD available to teach you his way to make knives. Hope it helps, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenco Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 yes Woody I would like very much a copy of the above mentioned books,as I am exploring knife making now with interesting results in design my address lbert@sde-boker.org.il Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted March 10, 2007 Author Share Posted March 10, 2007 Lorenco: Check page 1 of this thread for a reply by Oakwoodforge, there is a link listed there where you can download the material directly Woody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torin Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Lorenco: Check page 1 of this thread for a reply by Oakwoodforge, there is a link listed there where you can download the material directly Woody I just tried to download it and I'm getting a 404 error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolano Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Yeah, that link doesnt work. This one does, though: http://www.feine-klingen.de/PDFs/verhoeven.pdf It will probably open in a PDF viewer, where you have to click "save a copy" or something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torin Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 You can right-click and choose 'Save As...' for IE 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboy Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 very interesting, saved to documents:D thanks guys, buzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Gomez Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Thans for the link, Tons of great info!!! My brain is still smoking..kinda hurts a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Czar Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 http://mse.iastate.edu/files/verhoeven/7-5.pdf the pdf has been archived as of May 2006http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://mse.iastate.edu/files/verhoeven/7-5.pdfYou can right-click and choose 'Save As...' for IE 7. and if you use firefox you can right click on any dead link with this extension and check 6 different caches including the waybackmachine at the internet archive thank you Woody and oakwoodforge ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 direct link to Oakwoodforge's URL mentioned above Thanks Ice Czar for finding the reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRobb Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Thank you Woody and oakwoodforge for the info. Thank you also to Glenn, Ice Czar, Torin & all others who helped with the links. I will dive in to this soon. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loneronin Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 woody, could you send me "Experiments on Knife Sharpening". I already have the other one. my mail is: gianluca666@gmail.com Thank you very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Shimoda Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Yeah I'd like "Experiments on Knife Sharpening" as well, can you send it to me as well? donaldshimoda@comcast.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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