Mark Emig Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Yet another piece of bad news. The blacksmith's Journal is going out of business. A truly great publication with lot's of step by step information. I have subscribed on and off for about 15 years. I had to drop it when they went to digital download-no high speed acess here in the woods and it took forever to get an issue downloaded. It makes me think that I need to support these type of magazines and such or they will dissappear forever. If we all don't support these things we will have less places for great information. I am re-upping my ABANA membership (even though there is some stuff I don't like about abana) so that I can help them stay around and provide valuable information. I am also re-upping my Traditional Metalsmith subscription. Once again, I'm sorry to see the Blacksmith"s Journal dissappear, it was a treasure of knowledge for the Blacksmithing community. Mark Emig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWHII Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 It is to bad he has to shut down. I too have subscribed over the years and have a Smithing Magician and bought many books from Jerry Hoffman. If your out there? Best of luck to you. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprockets&Cogs Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Is trying to save the issues for the blueprint section something we could collectively do? Essentitally there are 232 issues available at $4 each for a total of $928. A bit pricey for one person but as a group this large and passionate I think it is worthwhile. It would be a real shame for this resource to vanish. Erick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemamoo Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 I would pitch in $50 for it. Would probably need to go through Glen to make it work..... not to mention he would have to translate all the data to the BP format. Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 that was a well executed magazine, good draftsmanship, too bad it's gone by the wayside. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon Sculpture Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 A great publication, probable one of the most informative technical publications out there. Bummer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWooldridge Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 That really is a shame - The Blacksmith's Journal was a great publication. Several years ago, Jerry visited my shop to demo for our local group. He is a very accomplished smith so all I can hope is that he became successful enough to retire and is not having health issues. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Clad Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 So, has it already closed shop? For those of us who payed up for a year are out of luck I guess... :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welder19 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 That really stinks, it would be nice if there was someone capable and willing enough to continue doing it. I have a couple years worth and there is a lot of great projects and demostrations in them. welder19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Ah just buying a copy does not allow you to republish it! You need to buy the rights as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasklking Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 I went to an auction a few years ago where the entire contents of a smithy was being sold. Among some of the materials sitting around were several binders of material from the Blacksmith Journal.....the only stuff in the entire shop the fellow wouldn't part with...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Thomas: Yeah, that was my first thought. I mentioned it recently when someone posted pages right out of "Anvil" magazine. This stuff is all protected under copyright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 This ain't the high seas, Arr mate, and there are laws protecting things like that, still it's sad that it is passing. He may still be open to an offer of gold for his intellectual property. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 We can't complain of folks in foreign countries copying *OUR* stuff and under cutting the market and then go out and do it to one of our own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprockets&Cogs Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I do realize their are copyright issues and I suppose I should have added in my initial post The Blacksmith Journal would know what we are doing. How do librarys work? They have copyright material that they lend to people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainely,Bob Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 We can't complain of folks in foreign countries copying *OUR* stuff and under cutting the market and then go out and do it to one of our own! Sure you can Thom,people do it every day!It`s just a question of if you can live with yourself after you do it. As for myself,I prefer to be able to sleep soundly at night and being able to look myself in the eye while shaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Sprockets&Cogs: The same way if you buy a copy you can loan it to whoever you want. But the RIGHT to COPY and distribute (by print, electronic, or any other means) lies with the COPYRIGHT holder. Blacksmiths Journal needs more than just "knowing" we are doing it. And it ain't "we" it would be Glenn. He cannot KNOWINGLY display copyrighted material on his website without WRITTEN consent from the copyright holder. I would expect that Jerry might have plans to publish the journals in volumes in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstein Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 That would be a great seller. A collective of a publication in book form. The different phases of info from different times during publication. Hopefully he will create some sort of compilation. Who knows, some people, like Brian Brazeal would like to pass on information to better the craft. Obviously this is something to be discussed with the creator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Forge Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 On 6/7/2010 at 8:08 PM, ironstein said: That would be a great seller. A collective of a publication in book form. The different phases of info from different times during publication. Hopefully he will create some sort of compilation. Who knows, some people, like Brian Brazeal would like to pass on information to better the craft. Obviously this is something to be discussed with the creator. That would be a great thing for ABANA to take on. Anyone know someone to contact at ABANA to propose this. ABANA could issue them as e-books without a lot of startup cost. Beyond that they could be sold as printed collections, grouping them however that makes sense to do. If ABANA wants to be the national blacksmithing association it alludes to then this would be a great place to start. Jim Dunning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 When I contacted them, they said they were planning to continue selling back issues, so availability shouldn't be a problem. The online store is still open, too. Iron Clad: I believe they will give you store credit for the balance of your subscription. Blacksmith's Journal was unique. I think Jerry Hoffman recognized the need for a publication that addressed design as much as execution... and then did an outstanding job filling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Forge Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 That would be a great thing for ABANA to take on. Anyone know someone to contact at ABANA to propose this. ABANA could issue them as e-books without a lot of startup cost. Beyond that they could be sold as printed collections, grouping them however that makes sense to do. If ABANA wants to be the national blacksmithing association it alludes to then this would be a great place to start. Jim Dunning I followed up with an email to the head of ABANA and he couldn't even be bothered replying and telling me to go to xxxx (though they still flood me with unwanted emails). Jim Dunning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rome.Hutchings Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 I followed up with an email to the head of ABANA and he couldn't even be bothered replying and telling me to go to xxxx (though they still flood me with unwanted emails). Jim Dunning Jim, just who did you contact as the "Head of ABANA", this is the first I have heard on this discussion. Don't be shy man, name names! This idea is a good one, are there any volunteers? Myself, I have been working on getting the archives of the Anvil's Ring scanned and those of you who are ABANA members may have received the CD.............free as a way to say "Thanks" for renewing your membership. All of these great ideas take time for some poor volunteer to do in their spare time, while their day to day "real life" continues going on.......such as trying to make bread and milk appear in the fridge on a regular basis. Think about this, not one single ABANA Board Member gets paid for what they do, its all for the "Love of the Craft" Best Regards to all, Rome H. Hutchings, 2nd Vice President "Volunteer Member Board of Directors" Artist Blacksmith's Association of North America The Prairie Forge 13633 Ferman Ave NW Clearwater, MN 55320 (763) 878-1694 Home (763) 482-1181 Cell (763) 878-1720 Fax [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Jim, just who did you contact as the "Head of ABANA", this is the first I have heard on this discussion. Don't be shy man, name names! This idea is a good one, are there any volunteers? Myself, I have been working on getting the archives of the Anvil's Ring scanned and those of you who are ABANA members may have received the CD.............free as a way to say "Thanks" for renewing your membership. All of these great ideas take time for some poor volunteer to do in their spare time, while their day to day "real life" continues going on.......such as trying to make bread and milk appear in the fridge on a regular basis. Think about this, not one single ABANA Board Member gets paid for what they do, its all for the "Love of the Craft" Best Regards to all, Rome H. Hutchings, 2nd Vice President "Volunteer Member Board of Directors" Artist Blacksmith's Association of North America The Prairie Forge 13633 Ferman Ave NW Clearwater, MN 55320 (763) 878-1694 Home (763) 482-1181 Cell (763) 878-1720 Fax [email protected] It's not even an issue for ABANA unless Jerry decides to abandon his copyrights. If you want that to happen, you should contact Jerry, not someone who has no power over it. Do the legwork first if you think it can happen, ideas are a dime a dozen. As an aside, NWBA has recently posted the entire 30 years of history of our award-winning newsletter/magazine the "Hot Iron News" in PDF format on our website: CLICK----> HOT IRON NEWS ARCHIVES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfootnampa Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Wow! That's a lot of reading! Thank you and your whole organization Grant! A great opportunity to learn and be inspired! I'll go through them ALL (though maybe it might take me a while). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweany Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 looks like for the nonce, issues are avalable. http://www.blacksmithsjournal.com/ddownload.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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