CurlyGeorge Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 OK guys and gals, I have a guy wants me to make an "Old Style Padlock". I did a search and came up with zilch in the way of any type of BP for making one. Anybody got any info, as far as detailed instructions, on how to make a Padlock and Key?:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake pogrebinsky Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 George,try this:http://www.lashistoria.se/Web/Core/Pages/Error.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/templates/AACms_LockHistDefault.aspx If it doesn't work,then i'm sorry,but it's an exellent resourse,when it's "up" There's something here,too,forgot where... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake pogrebinsky Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 O.K.,it works well enough right this moment.Use the buttons on the top of the page that says "Cannot be displayed..." Darn,i wish that i had a printer,i need this stuff.A friend most generously sent this to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dablacksmith Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 well how old time? there are some threads earlier that showed viking era and roman era locks ... i have taken a class on makeing a padlock from Peter Ross of williamsburg . it was a copy of one from 1790-1810 era . i might be able to copy class notes for you . will take time to find them tho . if you have the book proffesional smithing by donald streeter the arangement is similar . it might help . good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyGeorge Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Jake, thanks for that link. I was able to open it and did get some ideas from the "images" section. dablacksmith, if you can find a sketch, or two, in your notes, I'd really like to see them too, if you don't mind. That's the time period that he's looking for. Thanks alot for the info guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orgtwister Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 i have reproduction of that era that i took apart to see how it work some time ago i'll see if i can find it and take a pic and post it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Elmer Roush makes some hhere is a link to his site Home there are one or two books out on old locks also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Einhorn Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 George,try this:..... This url worked for me:historicallocks - Historical locks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgartner Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 GEORGE; Jock Dempsey has some lessons in I-Forge, on Anvilfire.com, lesson number 139. I couldnt get links to work. Good luck! Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieryFurnace Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I was going to say Elmer Roush as well! I got to watch him make a lock at a demo this year! He is first rate and answered all my questions. I would suggest you email or give him a ring and ask him if he has some diagrams. He makes locks from Vikings taking over Dublin and on up. (Not shure of the exact era) Anyway, he's handled the originals as a journeyman and really knows what he's doing. He even let me take picts of one of his easiest locks and I made nearly the whole thing. (Haven't finished it though) (P.S. using my name if you call or email will probably not assist you! LOL) Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 (edited) I found my book its called The Spruce Forge Manual of Locksmithing , A Blacksmith guide to simple lock mechanism by bill Morrison and Denis Frechette isbn 0-615-11822-4. I ordered my copy from Nation Builder Books P O box 253 Leesberg Va. 20178 800 450 5808 web site www.NBBoks.com email is akw@nbbooks.com the book shows a number of locks and how to make them with patterns and special tooling Edited November 17, 2009 by jimbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Besides the internet there is also the local libraries to get books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyGeorge Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 orgtwister, I'd REALLY like to see the pix of the inside of that lock, if you can find them. That would be a big help, too. Thanks. And thanks to everyone for the response to this thread. I wasn't expecting that much response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Bear Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 CurlyGeorge, I'm one of the fulltime locksmiths at the largest lockshop in our region, and my boss has been a locksmith for 27 years. I know he has an antique collection of his own (as do I), and I think he might have a couple old padlocks dating back to the 1880's. I'll have to check with him, but I can see if he has any exploded view diagrams or perhaps him and I can sit down and sketch one out for you. It really shouldn't be too difficult - older padlocks varied in design but they were all fairly simple owing to manufacturing limitations, limited types of metal available, and wider statutes of tolerances. I'll see what I can find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyGeorge Posted November 18, 2009 Author Share Posted November 18, 2009 Ironbear, thank you. Where are you located in southern ILL? I may be able to take a road trip, someday, and take a first hand look. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
781 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Black powder rendevous suppliers sell riveted togeterh padlocks in at least 6 different sized The small ones sell for less than $10 They are imported from pakastain or india or somewhere over there. Might get one of those and cut the rivets to take it apart I have seen a couple of demonstrators make handcuffs leg irons that screw together. They used round tubing with an all thread cuppler soldered inside, then used a allen cap screw as the threaded fastener. Roger Lorrence, Bellflower IL was one of the demonstrators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don A Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 George, Have you seen this one:Padlock made in Guild Workshop Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyGeorge Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 Thanks Don. That is a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Browne Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I just tried AnvilFire and the links worked for the 139, 140,145 & 149 demonstrations. They are really great and have even helped me make a "working" lock, not pretty but it works :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Yaggy Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 This may be a radical idea to post online, but I sugest a book. Search for the Spruce Forge Manual of Locksmithing, try looking at Artisan Ideas, Blue Moon Press, Lindsay Books, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myloh67 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 This one isnt hugely difficult to make.Copy of an ancient Asian barrell lock - Blacksmith Photo Gallery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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