OK guys and gals, I have a guy wants me to make an "Old Style Padlock". I did a search and came up with zilch in the way of any type of BP for making one. Anybody got any info, as far as detailed instructions, on how to make a Padlock and Key?:confused:

George,try this:http://www.lashistoria.se/Web/Core/Pages/Error.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/templates/AACms_LockHistDefault.aspx

If it doesn't work,then i'm sorry,but it's an exellent resourse,when it's "up"

There's something here,too,forgot where...

O.K.,it works well enough right this moment.Use the buttons on the top of the page that says "Cannot be displayed..."

Darn,i wish that i had a printer,i need this stuff.A friend most generously sent this to me.

well how old time? there are some threads earlier that showed viking era and roman era locks ... i have taken a class on makeing a padlock from Peter Ross of williamsburg . it was a copy of one from 1790-1810 era . i might be able to copy class notes for you . will take time to find them tho . if you have the book proffesional smithing by donald streeter the arangement is similar . it might help .
good luck!

Jake, thanks for that link. I was able to open it and did get some ideas from the "images" section.
dablacksmith, if you can find a sketch, or two, in your notes, I'd really like to see them too, if you don't mind. That's the time period that he's looking for. Thanks alot for the info guys.

i have reproduction of that era that i took apart to see how it work some time ago i'll see if i can find it and take a pic and post it

Elmer Roush makes some hhere is a link to his site Home there are one or two books out on old locks also

George,try this:.....

This url worked for me:
historicallocks - Historical locks

GEORGE;
Jock Dempsey has some lessons in I-Forge, on Anvilfire.com, lesson number 139. I couldnt get links to work. Good luck!
Keith

I was going to say Elmer Roush as well! I got to watch him make a lock at a demo this year! He is first rate and answered all my questions. I would suggest you email or give him a ring and ask him if he has some diagrams. He makes locks from Vikings taking over Dublin and on up. (Not shure of the exact era) Anyway, he's handled the originals as a journeyman and really knows what he's doing.
He even let me take picts of one of his easiest locks and I made nearly the whole thing. (Haven't finished it though)
(P.S. using my name if you call or email will probably not assist you! LOL)
Dave

I found my book its called The Spruce Forge Manual of Locksmithing , A Blacksmith guide to simple lock mechanism
by bill Morrison and Denis Frechette
isbn 0-615-11822-4.
I ordered my copy from
Nation Builder Books
P O box 253 Leesberg Va.
20178
800 450 5808
web site www.NBBoks.com
email is [email protected]
the book shows a number of locks and how to make them with patterns and special tooling

Edited November 17, 200916 yr by jimbob

Besides the internet there is also the local libraries to get books.

orgtwister, I'd REALLY like to see the pix of the inside of that lock, if you can find them. That would be a big help, too. Thanks. And thanks to everyone for the response to this thread. I wasn't expecting that much response.

CurlyGeorge, I'm one of the fulltime locksmiths at the largest lockshop in our region, and my boss has been a locksmith for 27 years. I know he has an antique collection of his own (as do I), and I think he might have a couple old padlocks dating back to the 1880's. I'll have to check with him, but I can see if he has any exploded view diagrams or perhaps him and I can sit down and sketch one out for you. It really shouldn't be too difficult - older padlocks varied in design but they were all fairly simple owing to manufacturing limitations, limited types of metal available, and wider statutes of tolerances. I'll see what I can find out.

Ironbear, thank you. Where are you located in southern ILL? I may be able to take a road trip, someday, and take a first hand look. :D

Black powder rendevous suppliers sell riveted togeterh padlocks in at least 6 different sized
The small ones sell for less than $10
They are imported from pakastain or india or somewhere over there.
Might get one of those and cut the rivets to take it apart
I have seen a couple of demonstrators make handcuffs leg irons that screw together.
They used round tubing with an all thread cuppler soldered inside, then used a allen cap screw as the threaded fastener.
Roger Lorrence, Bellflower IL was one of the demonstrators.

George,

Have you seen this one:

Padlock made in Guild Workshop

Don

Thanks Don. That is a good one.

I just tried AnvilFire and the links worked for the 139, 140,145 & 149 demonstrations. They are really great and have even helped me make a "working" lock, not pretty but it works :)

This may be a radical idea to post online, but I sugest a book. Search for the Spruce Forge Manual of Locksmithing, try looking at Artisan Ideas, Blue Moon Press, Lindsay Books, etc.

This one isnt hugely difficult to make.
Copy of an ancient Asian barrell lock - Blacksmith Photo Gallery