frankyluckman Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hello I'm new to the site. and to Blacksmithing. To get started I picked up a ALL Industrial Furnace made in South Gate Calif.. I want to see if anyone has info on these? I have searched online and can not find any company info or spec's. I would like to hook it up on natural gas, or propane. I don't know which would work better? Or should I scrap this POS cause it's not good for blacksmithing?? I am located in Long Beach Ca. Thanks in advance. jesse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Frank: It says "forge" right? Take a few more pictures, can't tell what's going on on the top. Step back a little more so we can see the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyluckman Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 I will snap some more pic's when I get to the shop....That is just junk piled on top of in......Forge came out of a school.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 First call the local gas company and see if they can supply you with natural gas at that pressure in a home setting. If they can't/won't/too expensive you can get it re-done for propane by having the orifices hard soldered over and drilled with the correct size drillbit. I last had this done by a local propane company when I converted a NG to propane powered item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyluckman Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hey Thomas I already have Natural gas plumbed near by. So Natural gas seems like the way to go. Any idea what the line psi should be? Here are some better pic's of this Sucker.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Ask your gas company what is supplied in water column units. This is really between you and them after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arftist Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Natural gas is cheaper by far than propane, at least arround here. The pressure is on the label plate. This device NEEDS to be installed by a licensed gasfitter or the gas company. Your life and home are not worth saving a few bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyluckman Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 Yea that sounds like a good idea. I do have an awesome set of tools, and I do like Fire!.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyluckman Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 Can anyone tell me what the desired temp(s) should be inside the forge? Also is there any Full Time 7 day a week Blacksmiths on here? I make Heavy Duty Work Clothing and would like to set up a couple of Blacksmiths with some free clothes to test for me. Let me know if you are interested. thanks...jesse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arftist Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) Awesome planishing hammer! Where did that come from? Many of us are fulltime blacksmiths. As for the temp inside the forge, depends what you will do with it. Are you planning to forge weld? Edited October 25, 2009 by arftist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyluckman Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 That's an old Petingill I found up in Sacto. It's made for Sheetmetal work...Sheetmetal Fab is mainly what I do..... Click:HAMMERTIME! on Vimeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 The gas company may run a install a meter for you but you will need a licensed plumber to run the interior gas line and make final connection. You may need a device to boost you line pressure at the unit. That is a nice planishing hammer. I have seen a couple of them but they were mounted on steel columns not wood. Could you let us know where you are located. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyluckman Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 I'm in Long Beach California Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOC Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Thar we go. In the second group of furnace photos there appears to be something large mounted off the side. Is it a blower? Very nice tank on the bike, btw! How did you go sealing the rivet seams? If you look on your personal profile page there is a function to put in a location, suburb/ town level seems sufficient on this forum. Its helps with gaining local specific knowledge; for example another long beacher might know a helpful furnace engineer have fun, post us more pics of nice metal work to! AndrewOC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyluckman Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 I tinned the inside flanges and put in a thin piece of lead. After it was riveted I heatted up the seem and sealed it. Piece of Cake! More stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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frankyluckman Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 Got the Gas Forge up and Running! Thanks to the couple of Good Eggs that PM'd me with some help.......... HaHa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlarkin Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 OK. I revisited this thread just now, and recognized the tank, and shop fotos. Had to go to the first post to verify the name. I am honored to be on a forum with the likes of you. My wife is lucky that there is so much distance between me and your shop. Else I would never be home. We have a couple builders in my town, but none like you. My daughter used to go to school in Long Beach, and everytime we went to visit, I always threatened to to stop by, but never did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyluckman Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 Just making sure you Ol' Timers are awake! This place is Great!..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyluckman Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 OK. I revisited this thread just now, and recognized the tank, and shop fotos. Had to go to the first post to verify the name. I am honored to be on a forum with the likes of you. My wife is lucky that there is so much distance between me and your shop. Else I would never be home. We have a couple builders in my town, but none like you. My daughter used to go to school in Long Beach, and everytime we went to visit, I always threatened to to stop by, but never did. Hey thanks for the kind words! I'm just trying to put some new skills in my toolbox, and see where it takes me next... If you are ever out this way come by.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyshackleford Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Is that you with Hofi, or Jesse James? :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sask Mark Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 You have some pretty amazing skills already. The rigid Villain with the 200 rear tire is the best looking bike ever built in my opinion. You have an amazing eye for design. If you apply that eye to blacksmithing, you will blow us out of the water with what you will turn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyluckman Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 Thanks Man!... I don't know about "Amazing" anyone in Blacksmithing...There is so many Talented people doing it that are decades into it.. I'm just barely learning how to hold and swing the hammer. It is way more difficult than I thought. I have a long road of learning ahead of me, But I'm up for it!..... Guess time will tell.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Emig Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 If you pick up with forging the way you did with fab work, I think you'll end up a pretty good smith. The thing that made me fall in love with forging is that you can learn the basics in pretty short order, but you'll spend the rest of your life trying to master it. I've been doing this 15 years and am still learning. Mark Emig P.SD.- how'd you hook up with Hofi ? I took a class from him-good teacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Hey Thomas I already have Natural gas plumbed near by. So Natural gas seems like the way to go. Any idea what the line psi should be? Well, it says on the spec plate shwn in pic #1, 6-8 in h2O pres. The air pressure is also listed on the plate next to it. There is also a listing F1,000 I believe (recent traumatic brain injury from being attacked by a Great White . . . Birch might have caused me to writ the wrong number so take a look at the top right of the spec plate for the accurate info) Anyway, the air and gas pressure should be more than enough info for an experienced gas burner guy (check with a furnace or heating and mechanical company near you) to set it up and tune it for you. Frosty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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