Hi there,if anybody knows what the 20 mule team borax in new zealand is called please tell me bcoz i dont have a clue and i need it extreamly bad.
thanx DM

Edited April 13, 200917 yr by Damascus Mike
Wrong spelling

I simply use the borax found in the cleaning section of the local supermarket. Works for me :)

but we dont have it here thats why i asked if there is a new zealander that knows what its called.do u know?send me a pic please

Sodium Borate

Mike, if you peoplein your country that are doing pottery there will a supplier.
That supplier will have anhydrous borax as it is one ingredient in a wide variety of glazes.

You might want to check out Crafts for sale on trademe.co.nz

At the moment they list 400g of borax as an auction item.

The 400 g box got pinched. It's now a 350g bag.

###350g bag Borox### for sale - TradeMe.co.nz - New Zealand

is this the real borax

yes that is...

ok so now i need to find out where to get it

hi bro damoscus meek
if you just put on yo jandles and grab the chully bun, yo cud gut on dun to the chummust und ask hum whut borox us culled.
Sorry Mike just my attempt at speaking kiwi, go see your local chemist, ask him whats the NZ local name for Borax, If you have a Woolworths close I'd check there 1st in the cleaning products isle.
And if theres none there you can always buy some fush und chups on the way home.
Cheers bro

haha you so funny
well im actualy from South Africa but i imigrated last year so dont worrie you can speak normal haha lol

you have a good point there at going to the chemist hmmm ill go tomorow

Normal!? You have GOT to be kidding! Ain't nothing normal about either of you two!

It's an honor and pleasure to know you.

Frosty

What do you mean Frosty?

Don't worry about Frosty, he ain't normal either. As a matter of fact I think that most of here are one lump of coal short of full load. So have you found borax yet:confused:

A lot of folks round these parts consider the term "normal" to be an insult; cause we all aspire to be cantankerous oddball smithing type folks---eccentrics of the first water!

Don't worry you can be "normal"; we just won't rat you out to anyone!

Which, the "Not normal part"? (THAT should be self explanatory) Or the "honor and pleasure to know you" part? "Normal" folk me scare more than just a little because first they just don't realize how dangerously odd they really are and that means they're just too far out of touch to be safe to be around.

Okay, maybe it's really because "normal folk just aren't much fun.

Frosty

Normal and average fall into the same basket.

To be average, one half of the population are dumber than you. You can fix that by learning and change places with the next smarter guy on the list, making him average.

I think normal falls into the same demographic, one half of the population is way over that way with their opinions, and the other have are way out there with their opinions. Normal just means you do not lean either way.

But if you surround yourself with the over there crowd, then they are normal and the what used to be normal are now over that way somewhere.

Normal is a matter of how many people think like you do in the same group. Besides how many normal people play in fire and beat on hot iron? I knew a girl that did not play in fire and beat on hot iron, her name was Abby something. Abby, , , Abby, , , yes that was it ----- Abby Normal. (reference Young Fronk-en-stein)

ok now im confused, i thought we were talking about borax in new zealand.what i meant was he doesnt have to speak like a kiwi bcoz im not one

Being confused by Glenn is awfully normal. Being confused FOR Glenn is just creepy. And if you don't get your borax down under it won't itch.

Frosty

um now im evan more confized

Have you looked at the ingredients on the sides of the boxes at your local Grocery store to see if any of them sound something similar to borax? Then you could have some component names to ask the chemist about.

I was going to suggest alternatives from an old ordnance manual, but it listed borax as the main ingredients in both its formulas. :-(

Has anyone on this forum tried to use sand as a flux?

Clean quartz sand was the traditional flux for real wrought iron which is generally welded at higher temperatures than modern steels and is fairly self fluxing as it is.

A more active flux like borax that works at a lower temp is easier to weld modern steels with.

However it can work just as you can forge weld with no flux if you get very good at it.

Edited April 16, 200917 yr by ThomasPowers

Boric acid makes a good flux as well and is a common roach poison if you can't find it in the pharmacy.

Frosty

A bird in a roomfull of cats had better learn to "meow"

Borax or sodium tetraborite decahydrate, is a naturally occurring mineral composed of sodium (salt), boron, (a primary element in almost everything), oxygen, and water. The powdered form of borax used in cleaning is the dehydrated version.
A link to the Material Safety Data Sheet for 20 Mule Team laundry detergent.. PROSAR - [View MSDS]

Edited April 16, 200917 yr by rthibeau
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