masonred Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I would like to attach/weld a 3/4-1 ball on the end of some A36 that's 3/8 stock. Would ball bearing work with a wire welder? I'm not an experienced welder and use a wire flux core machine that is rated for 1/4 inch metal. Is this pie in the sky and what is the alternate? Are mild steel round balls available? I did look around with no answers found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George N. M. Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 ..Do you need a solid ball or a hollow one or doesn't it matter? Try looking up Atlas Metals on line catalog. IIRC they have several aizes of hollow balls intended for "wrought iron" fence fabrication. Also, lots of cool other stuff. "By hammer and hand all arts do stand." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBones Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 My first question is do you mean a 3/4" - 1" ball bearing? If so yes. I have seen many people make a ball punch like that. Usually something a bit thicker than 3/8" but still using mild steel. 2nd question, what are you making? If it does not have to be hardened i would just do a wrap around collar forge welded to the end of the bar, then make it a ball on the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hibbert Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I'm not a welder, and would make a mess of that. A good welder might be able to do it cleanly but an armature like me. Could you drill a hole, and use a tap and die set to cut threads for the 3/8 inch rod? You might want to reduce the end of the rod to a smaller size and use a smaller hole if you try this. I think it would end up cleaner than a weld on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Preheat the ball bearing or whatnot, then weld it to the rod then post heat to let it cool slowly. The quality of the weld will depend on how well you pre cleaned it and prepped it and your actual weld. Pre heating and post heating for a slow cooldown will be important if the ball is higher carbon like a ball bearing. As long as the ball isn't chromed it can't hurt to try. The preheat and post heat will give you better penetration and less chance of HAZ (heat affected zone) cracking or separation. The high carbon would cool and react different to the mild steel. Certainly not pie in the sky. It is doable. If the ball is hollow and mild steel as well just take your time and weld it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masonred Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 Thanks for responses! Doesn't matter hollow or solid just looking for decent price and best method for my skill and equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 2/14/2024 at 7:24 PM, masonred said: Are mild steel round balls available You could google: Custom Ornamental Iron Works Ltd I don't know what a decent price is to you or how many you need, but they have weldable/drillable solid steel balls starting at 5/8" for $.98 on up to 4". I don't know if they have a minimum, I have never dealt with them, just looked it up. They also have: Hollow Steel Balls Crushed Steel Balls Melon Steel Balls Half Hollow Steel Balls Pre-Drilled Solid Steel Balls Aluminum Hollow Balls Stainless Steel Hollow Balls Welding them on should not be to hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 A great resource Scott, I've bookmarked it for future use, thanks. I can't control the wind, all I can do is adjust my sail’s. Semper Paratus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Great link Scott, thank you! I love the online catalogue you flip through the pages WITH sound effects! They must be doing well in the marketplace. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masonred Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 Thanks Scott I looked and think that's the place I'll try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Did you see the 60" hollow stainless steel balls? Talk about an attention getting hood ornament! Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 You are very welcome. Attention when you get in a wreck because you can't see around your hood ornament? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Well Y E A H! You'll draw comments from everybody. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Including lawyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masonred Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 Not making hood ornaments but that would be something. Referred to this place looks promising it's in Dallas. kingmetals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Oh yeah, they're an old stand by for metal components. The catalogue is a little hard to surf though. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masonred Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 It's going to work, need practice welding. I hit both ends several times and nothing turned loose. This will be a coat and hat hook after bending and making screw holes. Will try some different sizes and finishes, plan to start with linseed oil and wax. Thanks for advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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