Starkfelt Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Hello everyone, I’ve just came across this Peter Wright Anvil on Craigslist in central Florida. I am going to see it tomorrow and may purchase it. I wanted to see what you all might think about the price and condition, everything looks fine to me but I’m am not to familiar with blacksmithing in general, it will be a gift for my father. Here are pictures and the Craigslist description and sorry if I put this question in the wrong place. And thank you for the help. (Peter Wright Antique Anvil with handmade Blacksmith vise. Markings say: Peter Wright Patent 2 0 12 After researching the numbers on google it weighs 236 pounds plus the vise and stand. Stand and vise included. $1500 / obo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 It looks like a good usable anvil. I can't speak for anvil prices in Florida, but thats a bit high in my opinion. Buy the anvil for the anvil. That stand might not even be the right heigth for your father so the stand being included is fine, just Not included in the price. That vise has a little butchery going on. I wouldn't pay much included price for it since it is actually in the way of using the anvil where it is welded to the stand. Unless your father has a specific use for it being there then it would need removed, repaired and mounted elsewhere. If you go to look at it dont forget your ball bearing to test the rebound. Also check out the threadsand screw box on the vise. Deffinately haggle down the price, and dont forget that there Are New anvils out there available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notownkid Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 If me and this amount of $$ I would look into a New Anvil and see the difference in costs, somebody will buy this and at these prices you know it will not be in scrap. What are your plans for use if land it and leave it in one place 236 lbs ok but if you might want to do demo's or move it to use a 125lbs is a lot more pleasant to have. I have both. vise value? I have spent $45 and $100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 My wife and I have a standing rule that we don't spend more than US$20 on items in the other's area of craft without checking with them first! Keeps a loving spouse from blowing the budget getting something the other doesn't think is worth it. That they were thinking about the other is considered the "gift". I would not spend that much without checking to see if he would really rather have a brand new NIMBA Centurion (260 pounds), for a bit more or a Titan (120 pounds) for substantially less! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 If you do buy that, lose the stand and mount them separately. It'd probably be fairly reasonable here but any blacksmithing tools go for crazy high money here. Unfortunately we don't know where you are. If you put your general location in the header you might be surprised how many members live within visiting distance. A lot of things depend on location, tool prices are high on that list. That'd be a fair price in Anchorage Ak. but highway robbery in places in the upper mid west. Where ever it is I'd knock a couple hundred off my counter offer because it's been welded to a stand I'll have to haul to the scrap yard. I assume the vise is welded on too. Otherwise the anvil looks to be in good shape but do a rebound test on it. If someone welded it to the stand they may have "repaired" it too and ruined the heat treat of the face. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Welcome to IFI... I always suggest reading this to get the best out of the forum. READ THIS FIRST - Like others have said if the anvil is perfect (no problems) it's a little high in price. The only way to tell that is an in person inspection and a ring & rebound test. If the anvil has been in a fire, it will have lost the hardness to the face plate making it a dud for forge work. If you take off the max price of the vise (125$ U.S.) they still want 1375$ for it. I would opt for a new anvil at that price. My max I would spend on all would be 1000$ U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkfelt Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Daswulf said: It looks like a good usable anvil. Definitely haggle down the price, and dont forget that there Are New anvils out there available. Ok thank you for the reply Daswulf I will be doing everything you mentioned, I’ve been searching for anvils here in central Florida for some time now and they always seem to be in the high side compared to other states. Again thanks 6 hours ago, Irondragon Forge & Clay said: Welcome to IFI... I always suggest reading this to get the best out of the forum. READ THIS FIRST - Thank I appreciate being apart of this forum, I will be doing the ring and rebound test as you mentioned and I will be trying to get it for closer $1000.00. Thank you for the reply and help. 8 hours ago, Frosty said: If you do buy that, lose the stand and mount them separately. It'd probably be fairly reasonable here but any blacksmithing tools go for crazy high money here. Unfortunately we don't know where you are. If you put your general location in the header you might be surprised how many members live within visiting distance. A lot of things depend on location, tool prices are high on that list. That'd be a fair price in Anchorage Ak. but highway robbery in places in the upper mid west. Where ever it is I'd knock a couple hundred off my counter offer because it's been welded to a stand I'll have to haul to the scrap yard. I assume the vise is welded on too. Otherwise the anvil looks to be in good shape but do a rebound test on it. If someone welded it to the stand they may have "repaired" it too and ruined the heat treat of the face. Frosty The Lucky. Hello Frosty thank you for the reply I will most likely be mounting it seporately. I’m in Orlando, Florida where it seems anvil prices are high all over Florida. I will be doing all the tests I can and will be trying to get it for closer to $1000.00 tbanks again 8 hours ago, ThomasPowers said: My wife and I have a standing rule that we don't spend more than US$20 on items in the other's area of craft without checking with them first! Keeps a loving spouse from blowing the budget getting something the other doesn't think is worth it. That they were thinking about the other is considered the "gift". I would not spend that much without checking to see if he would really rather have a brand new NIMBA Centurion (260 pounds), for a bit more or a Titan (120 pounds) for substantially less! Thanks for responding ThomasPowers I have been looking into other new anvils such as the FONTANINI 250lb and Nimbas but shipping costs is what’s always holding me back. I will look at the Titans also. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc1 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 12 hours ago, Starkfelt said: (Peter Wright Antique Anvil with handmade Blacksmith vise. Markings say: Peter Wright Patent 2 0 12 After researching the numbers on google it weighs 236 pounds plus the vise and stand. Stand and vise included. $1500 / obo) Prices vary a lot with location, however there is something that is universal. There is the asking price and there is paid price. Many times they are a world apart. A few years ago I saw an add for a PW of very similar weight on ebay in Sydney Australia where anvil prices are even higher than where you are. Asking price was $1400. I dismissed the ad for nonsense only to see that it did not sell and was re-posted. I rung the seller and told him that he would never sell for that price and that a fair price was $600. A gamble I know but it worked. I bought it for $700. There are desperate ignorant buyers and desperate ignorant sellers in every country. As for the purchase of those tools, the only thing of value is the anvil. You decide what it is worth for you, disregard the stand since it is scrap, and the vice? well ... may be worth $50 to $100 depending of the size of your wallet. i would be inclined to pay $800 for the lot if it is nearby in Sydney Australia. Best of luck and tell us how you go! M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkfelt Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 32 minutes ago, Marc1 said: Prices vary a lot with location, however there is something that is universal. There is the asking price and there is paid price. Many times they are a world apart. A few years ago I saw an add for a PW of very similar weight on ebay in Sydney Australia where anvil prices are even higher than where you are. Asking price was $1400. I dismissed the ad for nonsense only to see that it did not sell and was re-posted. I rung the seller and told him that he would never sell for that price and that a fair price was $600. A gamble I know but it worked. I bought it for $700. There are desperate ignorant buyers and desperate ignorant sellers in every country. As for the purchase of those tools, the only thing of value is the anvil. You decide what it is worth for you, disregard the stand since it is scrap, and the vice? well ... may be worth $50 to $100 depending of the size of your wallet. i would be inclined to pay $800 for the lot if it is nearby in Sydney Australia. Best of luck and tell us how you go! M Thanks for helping out with your comment I will be going to see the anvil tomorrow and I will let you all know the outcome. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horse Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I may have a bit different take on this than some folks. There are two basic questions. Is this the anvil you want? And do you have sufficient means. I am a part time auctioneer and I see 500 dollar items bring a couple of thousand and I see two thousand dollar items bring 500. The person that spent too much needed, wanted the item then and there. They are happy with what they got because it was there that day. If you spend a couple hundred more on an anvil than actual market value will you really notice in a year or a few days for that matter. Anyone going hungry because of this purchase? Kids with no shoes? Just make sure you want it make sure it’s right and most importantly don’t spend beyond your means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilwaukeeJon Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 While the price may be high, a key point here is that it is a gift for your Dad. What a nice thing to do! Does your Dad like vintage tools over new ones? Would he particularly prize a Wright anvil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Are there other needed blacksmithing tools you could spend the difference on? PPE for instance... Have you mainly been using the internet to search for anvils? It's often the most expensive method. (Like "I've been searching Tiffany's for a cheap engagement ring and can't find one!") Check out the TPAAAT here. As for the gift aspect: I once worked with a fellow who collected antique woodworking tools. One Christmas his mother gave him a ford wrench that she had overpaid for; I know this as he was lamenting to his coworkers all the items he could have bought for the money she spent on something he neither wanted or needed and couldn't resell for half what she paid for it. Note: if that was a real good price it would have sold hours after being publicly listed and so this discussion would be moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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