AMcGuire Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 The first knife is 1080 and the handle is glow in the dark pinecone and wood. The second one is also 1080 with a cherry burl handle. The knives rusts extremely bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 so what did you coat them with to prevent rust? Have you ever seen an old plain high carbon steel kitchen knife? They have a patina after years of use. That is what you should expect for a plain high carbon steel knife UNLESS you keep it coated to prevent rust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ling Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Cool. In the pic of the last one, I'm guessing you made the sheath? I may have you make me a few, for the knives I'm selling at camp. Littleblacksmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Carbon steel knives will always rust.. It's the reason they developed Stains less steels.. Lots of people who were old enough to remember when stainess steels started to take over the market used to tell me what a shame it is as stainsless steel knives just don't hold the same edge.. I can remember even back in the 70's that all the pocket knives were in carbon steels.. All of a sudden the only way to get a carbon steel knife was to order it.. Knife edge retention I feel carbon steels win out.. But then again it's my preference.. Nice work.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMcGuire Posted June 5, 2017 Author Share Posted June 5, 2017 I coat my knives with olive oil and on some I have put a vinegar patina. The knives don't rust horrible if you regularly oil them but as soon as you slack off they rust like crazy. Here is the sheath for the first one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Note that vegetable tanned leather will discolour plain carbon steel knives it that lined? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMcGuire Posted June 5, 2017 Author Share Posted June 5, 2017 I did not know that. How come that happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Simple answer: Leather is made with tannic acid, tannic acid is corrosive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Tanning comes from Tannic acid in the Tan bark---of veg tanning. Tannic acid and iron makes a blue black stain on a blade or on wood if a steel nail is driven into an oak tree. This can be used on purpose. So this is the reason that a plain steel knife or a gun should not be stored in veg tanned leather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, ThomasPowers said: Tannic acid and iron makes a blue black stain on a blade or on wood if a steel nail is driven into an oak tree. This can be used on purpose. A similar effect can be created by dissolving rust in white vinegar and then applying the resulting liquid to a piece of oak. This is the main part of creating a traditional ebonized finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 You can also soak tannin deficient woods with a tannin solution to get an ability to use such solutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will W. Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 10 hours ago, JHCC said: A similar effect can be created by dissolving rust in white vinegar and then applying the resulting liquid to a piece of oak. This is the main part of creating a traditional ebonized finish. Good ol' vinegaroon. I made a bookcase recently and wanted it to look like a weathered antique. Used rough cut lumber, made about 75 square nails for it and stained it with vinegaroon. I love the way it made it look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Don't forget ammonia fuming of oak too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhitee93 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 I demonstrated this effect rather unwittingly the other day. I was using a scrap piece of leather as a backing pad for some abrasive paper to polish out a hollow ground portion of a blade. After an hour or so the leather turned black, and my thumbs are still stained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Has anyone considered using chrome tanned leather instead of vegetable tanned leather? Also, coating the leather with a varnish might also work. I have not researched the varnish idea. (those books and files are still in storage, & will be shipped here shortly.) SLAG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will W. Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Going off of what SLAG said, anybody consider using brain tanned leather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 18 hours ago, Will W. said: Going off of what SLAG said, anybody consider using brain tanned leather? I've got so little brain that I can't waste any on tanning leather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will W. Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 28 minutes ago, JHCC said: I've got so little brain that I can't waste any on tanning leather. I understand completely. Luckily, the animals don't mind lending me theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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