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Frosty, there are ineline propane filters.

We sell one here made by Mr. Heater made to attach to the 1lb cylinders.

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Excellent are there models that'll fit hose or regulator? If so it would take care of the problem Mike describes above. I'll take a look.

Okay, Home Depot carries them I'll drop by and take a look. Their website is so eager to add what you're looking at to your shopping cart almost my whole screen is taken up by flashy B.S. and pop ups. 

Thanks. 

Frosty The Lucky.

Anything besides the Mr, Heater style seems a bit pricey but I did see other options.

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4 hours ago, The Jeff said:

We sell one here made by Mr. Heater made to attach to the 1lb cylinders.

Oh, goody! Thanks, Jeff. I had no idea the problem had such a simple solution. Will look into the Mr. Heater filter :D

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I ordered one through Amazon.com, yesterday. There is quite a range of prices for the same item.

I'm seeing a lot of different models and the prices depend on where you get them. You should see what our propane supplier wants for one. Legally they have to install one on the house propane tank but for a 40lb bottle? Looking in the owners manual the RV already is filtered.

After all these years of talking about this I have to wonder why we never thought about filters. Where have our minds been Mike?

Frosty The Lucky.

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How embarrassing:P

Good thing we never claimed to know everything, huh? On the other hand, if there was nothing left to learn...what a bore.

What a bummer Mike, I've been wrong so many times I'm no longer embarrassed. 

If I knew everything, imagine how much better I'd be at making things up! :lol:

You know I was a driller with Alaska DOT highways. Yes that's right, I was professionally boring!B)

Frosty The Lucky.

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Oh come now; surely you at least have a speck of embarrassment left, right? I have enough left to serve as a fig leaf; even if there is no where near enough remaining to scrounge up a blush :rolleyes:

If I do it's hiding somewhere under my belly where I'm unlikely to find it when appropriate.

Uh, you DO know how large fig fronds are yes? You could hide someone 7' tall and 6' wide behind one.

What I really love is when some youngster tries to embarrass me at a gathering or in public. I can usually turn the RED before I finish the second sentence. WITHOUT being mean! MAN, it's been too long since I got to do that. Maybe I'll go hang out where the young folk do.

Beautiful scorcher here today, it hit 82f by the windshield thermometer and the sun is beating down hard. I had dinner at the local restaurant that's always hopping but there was hardly anybody eating and only two staff working. Seems everybody has gone fishing or to the air show in Anchorage.

Frosty The Lucky.

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A Mr. Heater #F276163 Fuel Filter can be screwed into any burner system between a 16 oz. fuel canister and a fuel hose, eliminating the problem of tiny gas orifices being plugged up from fuel tar and wax. However, with screw in gas orifices, such as MIG contact tips, or all but the smallest 3D printer nozzles, they are an unnecessary expense. But, with gas orifices that are so tiny that torch tip cleaners, or even piano wire is not small enough to work, such filters seem to be the logical solution.

However, Frosty and I missed these filters in the for place, and I don't want to try for a twofer. So, if anyone has something else to say on the subject, please speak right up :rolleyes:

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The Mr. Heater fuel filter came today, and proved quite a surprise; in the advertertisement photo, it looks small; its body measures 2-1/8” diameter by 1-3/4” long. This leaves plenty of room to hold tars and waxes from propane fuel, before needing discarding. This is important, because once filled, a filter becomes worse than useless; it becomes a clog.

Caution: Newly constructed burners must have their gas systems thoroughly cleaned from all construction debris, dust, etc. Otherwise, it will inevitably end up plugging the gas orifice. Once, propane has been run through gas hoses, and regulators, they should be kept on the heating equipment, or have their ends capped. Insects and spiders are attracted by the methyl mercaptan odorant in propane.

Something that wasn't clear to me reading the ads was. Can the Mr. Heater filter by attached to a full sized propane tank, 20lb - 100lb?

Turning into a plug is normal for loaded up filters.

Frosty The Lucky.

The Mr. Heater filters we sell have male on 1 side on female on the other and they are the same thread as disposable 1lb cylinders.

Search disposable propane bottle adapters, there is an assortment.

The big black end thats fits on a 20lb tank is QCC.   Disposable x QCC adapter or disposable x POL for 100lb.

There are some adapters that are disposable x 1/4 MPTwhich I believe would get you into a regulator. ( atleast the regs I'm familiar with)

I believe I also saw some hoses that were QCC on 1 end and the filter on the other.

And the brick and mortar store of your local propane supplier will carry most if not all legal adaptors. Ours does but Alaska is geared for a large demographic of outdoors types and lots of out of staters so we have a better than usual range of things like this.

Frosty The Lucky.

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The right grinder at a low price, too!

The Galaxpro 4-1/2" angle grinder is offered on Amazon.com for $25. The advantage of this particular grinder isn't its low price, but its low amperage rating; just four amps. For cutting with one of the included cutoff discs, this is as safe as a standard angle grinder gets :)

Oooh, that is a good one Mike! Anything that makes angle grinders less frightening is a big plus.

Frosty The Lucky.

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Exactly, Frosty. Every since Makita marketed the first small angle grinders forty odd years back, the race to make ever stronger grinders has been on. These days, finding an angle grinder with reasonably low amperage, is a marvel; and finding one at a low price! I have no doubt that, as soon as sells pick up, so will the price :P

The danger of using an angle grinder for routine cutting is insane, there are too many good safe ways to cut metal. However, seeing as so many low experience folk are cutting with angle grinders I'm very happy to see one that's actually designed for the job. 

Low RPM is also much better for buffing and fine grit grinding, the disk needs to clear the cuttings which need to cool for a fraction of a second. Fast grinders load up quickly by jamming hot cuttings on hot cuttings jamming it all into the abrasives. 

Sorry, it's been a sore point with me for 40 years and it's too easy to get going. I have scars from right angle disk grinder wheels coming apart in use. Once across the room from me.

Frosty The Lucky.

 

If safety is your main concern I recommend taking a look at oscillating tools.  I have a Bosch with variable speed.  It certainly works better for some things than others, but since the cutting edge is essentially vibrating rather than spinning there is no real danger of something like the catastrophic failure of a cutting disk or anything getting wrapped up on a spinning shaft.

Of course it does require that whatever you are cutting has enough mass or is held stable enough so it doesn't allow the vibrations to be absorbed.

An excellent alternative. Besides being safer they can cut in inside corners and such without cutting out of the area. 

Frosty The Lucky.

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I never tried one on steel; for wood, they work great.

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The Galaxpro 4-1/2" 4amp angle grinder came to day. It was impressive; it had none of the usual signs of poor construction (bulging brush covers, stiff power cord, or unfinished castings on the gear head). I turned it on, and it has low noise, and is smooth running. So far, it is very impressive.

  This tool comes with one grinding wheel, four cutting discs, and a wrench. It also comes with a clear instruction manual--in English.

  Frankly, I don't think their low asking price will remain at $25 for very long; expect it to end up north of $50 in the next few months.

  If you want to cut parts with an angle grinder, this one will be much safer than the usual over amp models.

Sounds good, I wonder how long it'll be before they offer a Li battery model?

Frosty The Lucky.

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Um, I don't think over-amped battery run anle grinders are a problem. The things I don't like about them are complicated circuitry, which is inclined to fail, and product descriptions rated in amp hours, which give no clue about just how strong of weak the motor is--only how long the battery duration is :P

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