basher Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 does anybody have any idea as to what make of hammer this is? No markings I can see. it has the interesting feature of having two slide plates, one mounted at the spring pivot and one on the ram , I guess to make the action between spring and ram linear? I would be interested in finding out what speed it should be run at as I have bought it as a fixer upper..... any info would be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbruce Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I've never seen the like......Perhaps a prototype that didn't go into production or what? With a guided spring arm it might be able to run fast, say 250+, maybe that's the reason for the guided spring arm? What size is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 looks to be a 50 or so possibly a little less, defiantly slightly smaller than my 60 goliath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron woodrow Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 got a side on shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everything Mac Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Very nice. Where did you find that? A British version of a LG perhaps? All the best Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Is that slotted adjustable throw on the flywheel linkage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 I have a feeling I have seen one of these before possibly in France? but I cant place where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Surely you meant "a british version of a Champion" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Evans Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I have a feeling I have seen one of these before possibly in France? but I cant place where? That top spring looks very Gallic...Asterix? :) Strange there are no markings, maybe they will come to light when you clean it up. It looks quite an elegant and mature design rather than a prototype given the number of patterns required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron woodrow Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 there is one, very similar to that, in the yard of the place i did my trade. same again, no maker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 here it is from the side , the grease nipples and Vpully make me think its o more modern than victorian machine.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 "Pounding out the Profits" has a whole chapter on hammers a lot like that with a bunch of brands. I am favoring the "star" as it has a round hole in the upper casting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 Thomas , I have that book. nothing like this in there as far as I can tell. If you look a little closer at my pictures you will see that both the ram and the spring are mounted on separate slides. so this hammer has two moving plates traveling inside the slide , one for the spring and one for the ram. cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 Thats the one Rob. Thanks very much for finding that out. so I guess thats Todmorden Yorkshire. where did you pull the information from? Ill try and get it going at 300bpm and will update when its here and done and running. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonjic Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Ms Basher will be pleased you have got a Yorkshire hammer :) Looks a bit 'left handed' with the die configuration ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Rabbit Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Seems to me the die configuration is set up like that to allow a long piece of steel to be hit square in the middle of its length. Just my 2¢. ~The Mad Rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 this hammer was listed on the BABA facebook page, Im going to pick it up today in essex. Going to lay it down in to a long wheel base van.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skender Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Hi Basher . I bought one of those hammers about ten years ago. There seems to be afair few of them in Australia. Mine was an 80 lber . Be sure to check behind the bottom of the slide as it seems to be a week spot as I have seen three of them Brocken In this same spot. Mine also was Brocken and I decided to weld it as the previous owner made a bracket to hold it in place. It was. Large repair in the frame as it is quite thick . 40 hours of welding but worth it as was a nice machine to use . I went the whole rebuild in the end . They have a factory fit brake on them that works reLy well. Was offered a fair bit of money for it and sold it. There was a fella east of Aus that funnily enough was advertising one of these hammers as a massey spring hammer. It was like new , out of the box. I asked him why he thought it was made by massey and he massey iwas cast in the side of the frame. I fully buffed my hammer back to clean a clean grey casting and couldn't find any name on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 I have it home and on it side and have freed up the clutch ( seized) and re greased the bearings . all seems good. Sub one tonne hammers are lovely to transport..... not sure of the ram weight but not too heavy. I will work my way around it over the next few weeks, the throwing assembly is solid, all joints seized up, bit of wd40 working its way in. should not be a problem...little heat and a punch. This hammer has a chunk broken out of the bottom of the slide at one side , interesting to see that its a design flaw, I still have a box of repcast rods and will bracket around as well, got a pretty good idea of a fix. I think the break is early in its life, not a lot of signs of a lot of work..... Interesting as with the vertical spring ram arrangement you would think the sideways force would be negligible. the ram slides do seem to protrude down past the hammer slides quite a lot, could be due to that., I may lift the ram an inch or so and put an extended bottom die in it. possibly not. If anybody has a picture of the rear break assembly that would be great, I imagine that its a metal strap with break lining material in it or leather? the break strap/shoe is missing. I have the break from a lift and it may be easier to repurpose that rather than make up a shoe on the existing break pulley. we shall see..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skender Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I am sure I still have photos of my hammer. Will try and find this morn to see if I have a clear pic of brake set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skender Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Sorry , don't have the photos anymore. Went with hammer. Although I did find the sales add that we're in the plant and equipment when I bought mine.my hammer had a clutch assembly the same as the pic rob Wilson put up as to say all the working friction clutch was in the center of the cast frame. The brake was cast into the top of the machine to take an adjustable push stop. The other hammer I spoke of that was advertised as a massey was the same as yours with the wheel behind the cast frame on the end of the main shaft. It is a black and white pic and can't get a clear shot of it to put up but it defiantly has a belt that clamps onto that wheel as a brake.if you get stuck I can go old school and send you this add in the mail . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 thanks for looking. I think I can figure it out , thin gauge steel with belting (thick hard leather) as a break material. I shall take photos of the rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 well its a 90lb er (40kg) with the top die still in.... never would have thought it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skender Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 All of those hammers I've seen in Aus also had the dies facing to suit left hand.how do you get your pics up Basher ? As I have been trying to post my hammers but can't work out how to get them on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 I host the pictures on flickr and then link to them, with the tree icon above the writing window. but I believe you can pull them from your computer if they are small enough.use the tree icon above the writing window. Im not too computer savvy so hope that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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