Rhettbarnhart Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 My sister has been after me to make her a candle holder since I started smithin' so I finally got around to I almost a year later.This Is my first attempt soooooo......the next one will look nicer.Anyways here it is.I need to make a set of fire tools and I want to put rams heads on the ends so I have been practicing rams heads too,here is my 3rd one .So what do yall think?if yall have thoughts to improve them I would love to hear them. rhett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loneforge Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Nice work Rhett! Keep it coming~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhettbarnhart Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 thanks Darren,i forgot to mention,i got this idea from one of 99ppo's videos.Also,does anybody have advice on how to get the curl on top to fit thhe candle easily? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solano Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 nice Rhett, thanks for sharing. Great ideas there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedefiddle Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Tray to catch the wax??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Special Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 For the curl on top, when you shape it, form it around a cold rod the same diameter as the candle. Like when you make a socket by shaping it over a mandrel or a drift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhettbarnhart Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 Thanks solano,once again,I got the idea for the candle holder from 99ppo(Daniel) Swede fiddle in the second pic you can see the little tray I have I just used a ball pein to speed the stock, it could be bigger though... Nobody special,I tried that and the bloody rod keeps wanting to fall out of the curl how do I hold the rod in place? Thanks for the comments and suggestions Rhett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Special Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 If you're talking about while forming, put the rod in a vice and do your work near the vice surface to minimize wiggle. If you're talking about still loose after formed, you can do several things. Let it set on that tray on bottom, you could put a pin through the bottom for the candle to sit on, you could rough the inside edges or make burrs to grip the rod/candle. Or after shaping, close the circle a tiny bit more so that it is fractionally smaller than the candle and the candle should push into it a little. Of course the last one only works if you consistantly use the same size candles. You could also form it around a tapered rod so that the bottom curl is smaller, giving the candle something to sit on, then gradually opening to the desired size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhettbarnhart Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 Thanks I tried the rod in a vice but with the tray I couldn't get it to work for me....time to go watch the video again lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhettbarnhart Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 Thanks I tried the rod in a vice but with the tray I couldn't get it to work for me....time to go watch the video again lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solano Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Rhett, I get alot of ideas from other guys. I am just starting out in this craft and learn something every day on IFI. I do appreciate the guys sharing their projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhettbarnhart Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 SOLANO I understand I just wanted to give him credit (: happy forgin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhettbarnhart Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 SOLANO I understand I just wanted to give him credit (: happy forgin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieryFurnace Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Impressive job. I use a 7/8-inch outside diameter pipe to wrap my coils around for candle holders. I use an O/A torch which makes things a lot simpler. You might be surprised at how easy it is to free form a coil like that on the anvil. This will help develop your eye as you estimate diameter. Do the coil while everything is still straight and then do all of the bending last. Do you have an instructor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhettbarnhart Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 Thanks Dave it is a simple project for y'all pro smiths but it is kinda challenging for guys like me.that would really simplify things to make the coil while everything else was straight,thanks.No I don't have an instructor but I recently found that there is an experienced smith about 30 min from me :) he is a member On here;his name is Makenzie Martin and I am gonna go to his place and have him give some pointers next week hopefully :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Rhett: The simple things are often the most difficult to execute. I mean heck, all an atomic bomb is is a large lump of U235. Yeah, right. What Dave means is YOU"LL be surprised at how well and smoothly these things go once YOU get it. Knowledge and practice is all the craft is . . . Well, okay so you need some steel, fire, hammers, etc. The real tool at your disposal is your brain and you can train it. If that's your first candle holder you've done a terrific job. Things like getting the coils just right to hold a candle are a matter of fine tuning, you have the right mojo going, all it needs is some tweeking. Being the joker I oft am, I WAS going to say the easy way to get the candles to fit was to make the coils small and get them hot before putting the candles in. That's only partially a joke, if you get the temp right you can literally screw the candle down the coil and it'll stay. Nice ram's heads too. I'm thinking you're another comer. A few years and you'll be giving classes like Dave. Frosty the Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhettbarnhart Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 Yes frosty it is my first candle holder and I think it won't be my last :)and yes....it was very tempting to just heat the coils and shove the candle in :)thanks for the encouragement It is nice. P.s. I don't mind your long posts :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Lea (AKA 99pppo) Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 thanks Darren,i forgot to mention,i got this idea from one of 99ppo's videos.Also,does anybody have advice on how to get the curl on top to fit thhe candle easily? I have to say Rhett that I just filmed the video. Alec forged the candle holder and made up the design. Nice work what you did there! Good job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhettbarnhart Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 thanks daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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