July 30, 201213 yr Author Yea I'm kinda chomping at the bit myself, at the moment I have no choice but to wait for my friends knee to heal so he can haul up the crete. I did finished the wood for under the frame of the Niles, 11" high will bring the die to 35". It was difficult work with the frame mounted at ground level, this should make a big difference. I have been thinking about an XXL forge to feed these beast, I'm kinda split between a ribbon burner and a oil burner?
July 30, 201213 yr Would you use recycled oil and if so do you have a steady supply? I use an oil burner and like it but I don't filter the heating oil so I spend some time keeping the nozzle cleared out, puts out good heat though.
July 30, 201213 yr Author I have no experience with either, just trying to weigh out the pros and cons. Is the oil burner a mess? Were do you store the oil? Fumes? Pics?
July 30, 201213 yr I have to go get heating oil so I use 5 gal fuel cans. I pour that into a small tank (3 gal) mounted level with the burner on the cart the forge is on. I should mount it a little above. No real fumes to speak of once the forge is up to temp but there is some smoke until then. Otherwise it is not messy unless I spill oil filling the tank. I like the small tank so as not to have to much near the forge at one time but it would be better to have bigger. I think it has a 1 GPH nozzle in it now so the 3 gal tank will last a little over 2 hrs- the outlet is above the bottom so as not to suck crud. I seem to have trouble with pics. I am trying to set up a nice filter station to be able to recycle oil for the forge. smith
July 30, 201213 yr there you go again danger..... I Am going to build an oil furnace to service my steamy too..... Forgemaster uses one and so does moony.
August 1, 201213 yr Author Guess who showed up today! Man its gonna be hard to wait another month. You can see her just sitting there outside "Please let me in I want to play" ;)
August 1, 201213 yr poor old girl. she just cant make it..... i see her seat is waiting too..... and air line! love the grinder collection. i dug my foundation hole yesterday, i have to raise the whole hammer 160mm off the ground. at ground level the anvil is only 380mm off the floor! :huh: must have been for making dwarven battle axes..... :wacko:
August 1, 201213 yr Author Whoa! 15" I thought mine was bad at 24". Your moving along, how bout some pics? I'll probably set the wood next week and get her in out of the rain :)
August 1, 201213 yr Well, people were shorter back then ;). That is one heck of an air line DD, must have been easy to run thru that thin wall but what do you all do when it gets down to 20 below zero?
August 2, 201213 yr irony or ignorance? how were people shorter? we see shorter door frames, and assume that people were shorter. going by this assumption, people living in igloos must be 1ft tall? :huh: i think it is more that this hammer was used with relatively heavy swages and tooling, and the height was necessary so the offsider didnt have to cripple himself lifting tools any higher..... or for making dwarven battle axes...... :P
August 2, 201213 yr . . . or they dug trenches around the hammer to stand in. . . this particular hammer, no. but i have seen it done with others. i know the working history of mine for the past 110 years , but not the maker of it.
August 2, 201213 yr Danger Dillon, I'm curious about the anchor bolts you will use to hold the hammer frame. Do you have the crete socketed in some way?
August 3, 201213 yr hi, i did my calculations, my hammer tup is 313lb (142 kg) and anvil is 7334lb (3327kg) so that is more than 1:20 isnt it? good ratio. isnt it? oh, and i think i got my head around the throttle treadle idea! takes a while for some things to work out in my head........ apologies for my incredulity on the matter!
August 3, 201213 yr Author I would say thats quite a advantage to have that kind of meat under there. I was kinda disappointed to find the Niles had such a low ratio :( It still sure does hit a good wallop :D I'll be interested to see what you came up with for controls, you fill that hole yet?
August 3, 201213 yr naw, i havent put anything in the hole yet, i have been on changing shifts ( hence the 4 am breakfast log on) so the project is going painfully slow...... in your opinion, does such a large ratio mean less foundations are required, or more?
August 3, 201213 yr Author Less would make sense. The book on machinery foundations in this thread says a min. of 4' concrete under the wood. I would feel comfortable with 18" of wood but the foot print depends heavily on your soil condition.
August 4, 201213 yr mine is going into very sandy soil, so i am laying down a 6" slab first at the bottom of the hole, then the wood, im using 4"x8" ironbark railway sleepers (ties), but i have been advised to put the grain running vertically. it is great working for a cane railway!
August 4, 201213 yr Author Woody, seems awfully slim on the concrete. Maybe if your pad has a large foot print you could distribute the weight outward with the wood horizontal stepped upward... You won't be able to do that on end, you will only transfer the anvil size straight down, looks to be 20"x 28"? The little I have run the 200 it has already settled the 36" deep 40"x 50" foundation almost 3/16" I'm hoping it stays where it is now!
August 6, 201213 yr Author Finished the sleepers over the weekend, ready to bring in the frame, if I only had some help :(
August 8, 201213 yr Author I truly went to work on paying jobs today, I did make it till after lunch... A burning hole in my brain kept nagging me, POWER HAMMER :wacko: My good friend and mentor has always told me "You knew you were in this by yourself when you started" so I went ahead and set the frame by myself! I was also able to set the sow block and bottom die, I will get some paying work done tomorrow, I promise :P
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