Trip Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Hey yall, Well I made the purchase most of the metal needed for my tire hammer!!!!!! I also got a set of plans for the tire hammer, but I am having trouble understanding the plans. Does any one know of where I can find a exploded view of the Clay Spencer Tire Hammer? A exploded view will help me understand where part this and that goes, because I don't know what part this and that is!!!! LOL I will try to get photo's of the project as I go, but right now it is just a pile of scrap metal, but it should be transforming in to a hammer here soon.......... I hope. Trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 OK Today I plan on grinding the weld groove in the anvil post base, and the mast of the hammer!!!!! Thinking about a new "head" design. Instead of the tire in the front, have it in the back of the hammer, then have a piece of rod (1" Round steel) run to the front, and that will turn the solid steel wheel in the front with the toggle system. now was that clear as mud or not??? ;) What do yall think? Trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Sweet!!!! I have the same idea Trip for the tire mounted on the rear on a driveshaft. That way you can drill the front round plate at different intervals for different stroke locations and length. Like, one hole 1" away from the center, one hole 2", one hole 3" and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormcrow Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Also means you aren't welding onto the tire rim itself, which is always somewhat risky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Yeah welding on that tire didn't sound fun or safe. I am thinking about using a brake clutch system instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsilver4 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Check this little beauty by Fred out!! http://ornamentalroseengine.com/smith/hammer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Well here is a update photo on my hammer. http://m1109.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/kyblacksmith/IMG_20120715_104304.jpg.html. Does anyone have a good photo of the lower treadle assembly???? Trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 hey yall, I got the anvil post completely welded on the base, and painted. http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/ Today I hope to make the motor mount assembly, and treadle assembly. So far I got 4 hours of work, and $460 (give or take) in it. Good, bad, or just ok? Trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pug}{maN Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 cant see the pic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Lodge Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 FYI your picture link isn't working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 OK this link SHOULD work. I got an idea for the power source for my hammer. It might be stupid, crazy, ect, but I am self sufficient minded, and I like the idea, so just bear with me. :) Instead of using a 1hp 1750rpm AC motor, use a 1HP 1750rpm DC motor, and then hook that up to solar panels on the roof of my shop!!! I found a motor that I think will work http://www.ebay.com/itm/1HP-1750RPM-90V-56C-FRAME-PERMANENT-MAGNET-DC-MOTOR-/220728746438?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33647561c6 Yes I know it is pricey but it's the best deal I could find so far. Now I just need to figure out how many solar panels I need. Oh and also before you start thinking (solar panels are going to cost an arm and a leg) I can build my own 75watt solar panels for a third of retail price. :) So what do yall think? Trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 check out this site you might find a better deal plus some of the other parts you might need http://www.surpluscenter.com/electric.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pug}{maN Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 im going to power mine with one of these...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE9e0v1GM4U&feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 Thanks for the idea, and resource!!!!! I am having to take a break from working on it today, I hurt my back and knee yesterday. Hope to get back to fabricating the motor mount tomorrow. Well due for financial reasons I am going to have to sell my Champion 400 16" blower to continue work on the tire hammer. :( Here is a photo of it If any one is interested in it, you can email me at kyblacksmith@gmail.com or call me at (270)618-1325. Trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 1 HP = 746 Watts However what about starting current load and efficiency in your area? What voltage do your panels put out? What amperage. You may need a fairly expensive power conditioning system to get panel output usable by that motor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 1 HP = 746 Watts However what about starting current load and efficiency in your area? What voltage do your panels put out? What amperage. You may need a fairly expensive power conditioning system to get panel output usable by that motor! at this time I don't have any panels, and I don't remember the numbers for the ones I planed on making, I will have to do some math..... oh goody. lol the solar powered hammer was a late night idea, and I might still do it, but maybe as a add on later, or if I come into some money. thanks for the info!!!!! Trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twcoffey Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I am sure you would need batteries to start and run the motor with the solar panels used for charging the batteries. Solar panels will probably not give the surge current required to start a 1 hp motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 OK I got a problem..... i think. I am trying to find the spring that goes in between the...... toggles??. you know that moving part on the head of a tire hammer. I can't find the spring needed.. where do yall get them, or do any of yall have any that you would like to sell?? Trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Clay spernce's book on the power hammer has a list of all the parts and where you can get them on offence but it sounds like you are trying to recreate the wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 we Clay spernce's book on the power hammer has a list of all the parts and where you can get them on offence but it sounds like you are trying to recreate the wheel. well the website he gave isnt working right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacock Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 im going to power mine with one of these... I think you will need more than 1 1/2 hp hit and miss to run a tire hammer. I had a 25# Meyer bros at the BAM conf. and my 2 1/2 hp throttle goverened was really not enough. Your tire hammer is most likely closer to 50#. It takes 2 1/2 gas hp to equal 1 electric hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pug}{maN Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 would it be hp being used or torque ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacock Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 1 HP =550ft pounds per second. Torque is used in the formula to determine HP This is over simplified but, Torque starts the load HP keeps it turning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTB Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I PM'd you contact info for parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twcoffey Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I have some extra tire hammer springs from the same company "Msdspring" that the instructions specify. contact me at twcoffey@citlink.net. for price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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