Black Frog Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I still have to go look at the anvil from my first thread later this week:http://www.iforgeiro...k-for-purchase/ Decent anvils are proving to be tough to find for a beginner that doesn't know any contacts in this field... But I came across another with pics below. They claim Peter Wright with the markings 1-0-20, which I figure to be 132#? Is there something decent that could be under the neglected surfaces? Or don't even bother looking at something like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McPherson Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I see neglect but no abuse. Jump on it if the price is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 If it proves to be worthwhile, what's the best way to clean something like this up? Wire brush on a drill? .....they are asking $400, which I think is way too high for the condition. Am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmangeler Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 That depends on where you are, here it would be a pretty good deal. Most parts of the US it would only be a price. From what I see on this forum I would think in the UK it would be way over priced. If it were my anvil I would just use it and soon the top would be nice and shiny and the sides would still be rusty. If you wire brush it wear a respriator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 At $3/# it seems a bit high but like was said it all depends on where you are, so make an offer of $2/# and then try and work your way up to around $2.50 in ten cent increments and see how it goes. What can the seller do but say NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 Since I have an hour's drive to go see it, I told him I would have a hard time paying $400 with pics I see. I didn't want to waste his time if he was set on his price. He says he's already turned down $225 from someone, and says he's firm at $275. All I have at home is a 1" hardened sphere for a 'ball bearing'. Would you get a decent rebound reading with the rust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 no, but take a ballpeen hammer and see if a "normal" blow leaves a dent. If not it probably hasn't been un-tempered. That anvil should ring as well. If it doesn't then there is the possibility of a hidden crack or face delamination. (Not all anvils ring; but the ones that do should when tested!) BTW you seem to be confusing the rust and dust with "condition" when it's more like looking at a car that is dusty with bug splatters on it's windshield. What you want to look for is evidence of a crash or the state of the motor and transmission---not if it needs a car wash! As for price that seems high where I am at and very high indeed! where I used to live at. Whey you are at I haven't a clue and so can't help you with what anvils in your area go for. Remember that *cash* in your hand can sway a seller. $2 a pound is generally a decent deal for a good brand anvil in that quite good shape most places in the USA. clean with a wire brush on an angle grinder WEAR PPE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 Went and look at the anvil after work today. The person selling it said it had been sitting in a barn for a very very long time, hence its condition. Even had pigeon crap on it. It was indeed a PW anvil, but the owner misread the weight stamping on the side. He had told me earlier 1-0-20 as a stamping, but in actuality it was 1-1-20 or 160 pounds . Had a nice ring on the side when tapped with my hammer. Without clearing any rust or dirt off, I tried my 1 inch hardened sphere bounce test. Even through the crap on top I still got about 60% to 70% bounce in most places. I plunked down $250 cash as my only offer, and I'm the proud new owner of a very dirty, 160# Peter Wright anvil. My first anvil. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Good Deal for a great anvil! Now get to hammering! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaughnT Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Good deal? No. That's a great deal!! I don't see any issues through the rust and crud, and that price just can't be beat. You've snagged an anvil that's plenty large enough for the biggest projects you're ever likely to work on, and you'll be able to pass it down to your grandkids. I'm very happy for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 thanks! I thought it seemed worth the purchase. Now I'm wondering how old the thing might be. I'll start a new thread with some pics I just snapped.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Well done, good deal and good dickering technique. A little rust on the sides don't mean a thing and the face will clean up with use. If you must, go ahead and brush it, I wouldn't but that's me, I'm kind of lazy when I can. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 After the first go with a wire brush on a drill for quite a while.... now I can see the "PETER" in there too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluidsteel Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nice score! You'll be very happy with that anvil!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loneforge Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 So I have been told....any PW's after 1910 Had to haver England stamped on them. So it's definetely pre 1910. Also I have been told that pre 1880 they were one piece. No welded face. So if it has a welded face it's 1880-1910. No welded face pre 1880. I may be wrong on some of this so.....No matter. That is great looking anvil. Hammer proudly you got a great deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I think you are backwards on the welded face part as anvils tended to go from many parts down to few ones as you get closer to "modern" times---so they started with the face composed of several slabs forge welded on, then to a single slab, then to the top half of the anvil being a single piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 I've read the same thing about the ENGLAND stamp being there after 1910-1911.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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