brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 You know I was kidding. I don't consider you a child. Even at just thirteen years of age and under a hundred pounds, you still out swing most grown men. You are going to pass us all up, if you stay with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 i understood, brian!! i agree, it aint for women and children. i must be different then.... thanks anyways for the compliments!! you know i get angry when you say " IF " i stay with it!!.....grrrrrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 I know, that's why I said it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evfreek Posted August 20, 2011 Author Share Posted August 20, 2011 Alec, thanks for the comment on hot cutting two inch round. I didn't think it was fun either. It takes a lot of heating, is kind of fiddly, and it's easier to get a cold shut than with smaller cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I have had good luck buying ex army crow bars at about £10 each they are 2 meters long and 35mm section . some new chinese crow bars are sold at less than new steel price..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 the first cut on two inch took us 3 heats ( brian can do it in one with a hand hammer, somehow!! ) the second a little longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 the first cut on two inch took us 3 heats ( brian can do it in one with a hand hammer, somehow!! ) the second a little longer There are no tricks to it, but your anvil and stand must be mounted well and you need to employ the tapered shank hot cut hardy. I don't think most people realize how much energy is lost to vibrations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 yes, it is true how much more effecient your hot cut is, brian! but i cant wait to get my anvil " immovable " we could have gone through that two inch so much quicker if the anvil didnt move at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 some suggestions Alec Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evfreek Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 Well, I ended up going to the local (only) steel place, and looked through their scrap bin. They didn't want to deal with me on the phone, because I am a "nuisance", but I don't get out much and it is more than the usual drive. Their bin had plenty of round shafting, and I picked up two pieces about 20" each. I would have preferred smaller pieces primarily because of the lower risk, but upon returning, the spark test said 1040 for both! Yay. Eventually, it would be worth getting an inverter for my Dremel. Unlike my friend whose bars were precut too short for shipping, the cuts can be done with more consideration of the end use. Really, I hate shipping and flat rate package restrictions, but it takes so much time and gas to drive around, especially when you don't know what you're getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evfreek Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 Oh yeah, and thanks for the recommendation about cat track pins. But they didn't have any. Had to look them up on the WWW to make sure that I could recognize them if they had any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 How much vibrations are lost on a 4 ft section of railroad tie buried in clay standing on its end you think? Sufficient for government work perhaps? Wood tie with a steel anvil on it? good, getting very close to ideal. The better fastened the anvil, and the better the condition of the wood the better the system works. Steel track set directly in the Earth? It doesn't get much better given a piece of rail as an anvil. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Get you a full section of rail road track and bury it about 17-1/2 feet into the ground. All the mass is directly below the hammer, and it is well grounded. Now that you have your anvil located, build your smithy around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy k Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Glenn - the full length rail sections I have are 30 ft long, would be a bit more effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten Hammers Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 You bury that, you'd be halfway to China Jeremy. Maybe Ians place. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old N Rusty Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Evfreak and all who cannot get steel locally , call King Metals 800- 542-2379 for a catalog they will ship 10' bars U.P.S. the Prices ARE high , but you gotta charge more to cover this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Jeremy, then bury it 27-1/2 feet into the ground. YMMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I found this on the web it's good for determining how much stock to use for your hammer weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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