brianbrazealblacksmith Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Here's a picture of some hand held punches and drifts that I made the other day. I have often been asked, what do you do before you have a handeled punch? These can be used to make hammers or top tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyGeorge Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Hi Brian. Can you give the aprox dimensions of these tools and what material you used to make them? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted T Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 First thing: Thank you! Second thing: I second what Curly asked! Last thing: Thank You Again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Those look great Brian, gotta make some of these! I love combo tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 Thanks,guys! These were made from 1 1/8" 1045 and they are 13 1/2" long. The larger one is for normal sized blacksmiths hammers and larger top tools, and it is 13/16"x 3/16" at the punch end and 1 1/4"x 7/8" at the largest part of the drift. The smaller one is for farriers hammers and smaller top tools, and it is 5/8"x 1/8" at the punch end and the same as the other at the largest part of the drift. The entire working end of these are about 8" long, making the handle ends a little over 5". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar C Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 all in one...very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstein Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Were these tools made in mind for a single person using them? Do you use the same punch grind as the wood handled punches you use for hammer punching? Sorry Brian, i missed this post, i would have asked sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 Were these tools made in mind for a single person using them? Do you use the same punch grind as the wood handled punches you use for hammer punching? Sorry Brian, i missed this post, i would have asked sooner. Yes, they were, Brian, and they are ground the same. Before I had the handeled punches, I had to make a hand held punch to make the handeled punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBower Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I've considered reforging a ball pein hammer to make the handled punch. Do you see any reason that shouldn't work, Brian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I had a 7/8-1" round punch with a really messed up tip that I reformed into one works real good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstein Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Ah-ha, the which came first the chicken or the egg? Thanks for clearing that up Brian, say hello to Karen for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstein Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Brian, i had a go at a drift/punch today. I madeit out of jackhammer bit. Then i used it to make a handled hot cutter! I needed the hot cut to cut some thick plate i am using for a sculpture. I made the hot cut out of some of the 4140 you gave me, thanks for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieryFurnace Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Mr. Brian, Do you have a picture of the hole these tools punch? I don't have any drifts of large size because I have never had need of them. However, I suppose that sooner or later I will need them and I might as well have the knowledge stored up to turn them out! That is if I can remember it! I suppose coil or leaf spring would work for these too!? Thanks for posting the pictures! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstein Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 I don't have a picture of the hole immediately after punching. The hole is punched and drifted with the same tool, so the hole winds up being whatever size you like your handle to be entering the tool. The drift i made was out of a jackhammer bit i had. I hardened and tempered the drift after final forging and grinding. I heated the first few inches to a bright orange and quenched in peanut oil while being careful to bump the drift up and down as to not create a "line" of hardness. Then i ran it on a polishing belt real quick and used the leftover heat in the drift to run colors to straw at the tip. It held up well. Yes, spring steel will work well for a punch. Thanks for looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 i really like those tools! i have seen some of alec.s' tools first hand and those are equally awesome, thanks for posting them! also am i right in thinking that they are punches AND drifts all in one? if so that is awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Thanks monty! Yeah, these are a punch and drift combo... you then sacrifice the end when drifting ( will explain when you come and forge at mine). Brian and i made a drift each for me.. and on one of them he put a punch grind on one so that in a dier situation i can use that. alec p.s sorry for replying even though the question was to brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 i really like those tools! i have seen some of alec.s' tools first hand and those are equally awesome, thanks for posting them! also am i right in thinking that they are punches AND drifts all in one? if so that is awesome! Yes they are, montyc. Alec was the best student that I've had so far. I hope he makes it to the 2012 ABANA conference. I'm going to have him demonstrate with Lyle and me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Hi Brian here are three punches the one to the left is the one you made during your demo the middle is one I made and the one on the right is using a bull pin like Mark Aspery but the style that you make I am on my third hammer and have made 6 of the hot punches. after the demo I made this japanese style hammer.here is a picture of the finished hammer from the demo . thanks for all your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 i love the eyes on all brians tools, they really give them life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 When I demo, I tell 'em that the first hafted hammer-eye punch was made between a hard place and a rock! http://www.turleyforge.com Granddaddy of Blacksmithing Schools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old N Rusty Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I was lucky enough to go to Sir Alec's forge in England some pics his tooling, http://gallery.me.com/cecilebs#100520 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old N Rusty Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Some of Sir Alec's work:http://gallery.me.com/cecilebs#100504 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old N Rusty Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 And me at Sir Alec's forge http://gallery.me.com/cecilebs#100528 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old N Rusty Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 And finally Sir Alec in Washington , Louisiana, USA. at Artmania. April,2011 http://gallery.me.com/cecilebs#100535 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old N Rusty Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I hope MODS can underline the second post i dunno what i did differently on that one bear wit me folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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