monstermetal Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I just got off the phone with Don at Point Sharp steel in Kent, they sharpen jack hammer bits and such… .sometime over the weekend someone came in and stole a Nazel 4B forging hammer that was sitting out side there shop as well as some other big machinery (a big C frame shear/punch is one thing)… . Im sure it is headed for a scrap yard someplace… Since we are spread out I am hoping to put the call out for everyone to check out there local scrap yard if you can… a 4N is about 9000lbs without the anvil (they didn’t get the anvil) and it will be the only one but the serial number is 304 (its on a brass plate that could easily be removed though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenylittlemetalguy Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 That is super sucky, sorry to hear it. must be quite the hoodlums that could pack that off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksnagel Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 It'll never make it to this side of the country but you never know. Glad you posted it. So long as we band together when things get stolen we stand a better chance of solving crimes like this. Good luck. Mark<>< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbruce Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Judging by they're size, I hope there's a10 ton hoist on hand to hang the bastards if they get caught ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWHII Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Hard to believe that someone is able to steel something like that with someone not seeing it. $16,000.00 in scrap price was worth the risk to some crack head. I hope they find it and them before the cops get there. It would be fitting to have someone set it on there hands and feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Hard to believe that someone is able to steel something like that with someone not seeing it. $16,000.00 in scrap price was worth the risk to some crack head. I hope they find it and them before the cops get there. It would be fitting to have someone set it on there hands and feet. $16,000.00!!!????? What'er you smoking? Heavy scrap cast @ maybe .05 per pound X 9000 = $450.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulric Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 That'd be worth calling scrap yards and offering an award if it shows up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quebecblacksmith Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Incredibly amazing! For sure i'ts a person who was planified to stole this hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonjic Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 It would be worth you all phoning your local scrappers and telling them you will pay minimum 'tripple scrap price' for any blacksmithing stuff or power hammers, they may put it to one side if then dont have selling outlets already, they are business men ! Grant, the heavy scrap (would prob class as a bit lower grade than 'cylinder block scrap' ) will be paying about £gbp 220 a ton foldy cash price this week, so about $350 per 2200#, well worth a lift with a hiab (so $1600/ is not far off the mark) hope he gets it back edit, people are stealing drain covers in the UK at the moment scrap is that high! btw, if you put on a high Viz jacket you can do just about anything without people raising an eyebrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Well, I see the mills are paying up to $350 per long ton for "Machinery Scrap". So sixteen hundred broken up. Not sixteen thousand. Think Harold added an extra zero. But the mills are buying from the people we sell to, so we're lucky to get half that. Wow, #1 prepared (clean steel) is right at $500 long ton. Twenty-two cents/pound! Yeah, the mills are paying about double what I can get from the scrapper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Martin Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I did't know thieves would work that hard. If caught I vote 1000hrs community service.....on the hammer:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWooldridge Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 The amount of work required to do that would likely limit the number of perpetrators. Either they stole it to use (stupid but possible) or it's going to the scrapper. A lot of perspiration in either case - I hope y'all catch the SOB's that did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 It was actually pretty much the bare frame. All the innards and anvil were stored inside, they didn't want the scrappers gettin em. Who'da thunk they'd take the frame! Or could! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Five years ago they stole the copper lines off the oiler on this same hammer! Totally ruined the oiler which Don then replaced for over $1500.00! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainely,Bob Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Never underestimate a tweaker under the influence of high test tweakage. A gaggle(not sure of the proper terminology for a gathering of tweakers) of the skinny mutants can spirit away a boxcar full of these things and leave only one or two of their flattened brethren behind. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Miller Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I guess they had a flat bed and a large fork lift or crane to do it. Local rigger/drug addict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McPherson Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 "btw, if you put on a high Viz jacket you can do just about anything without people raising an eyebrow." You got that right. About a dozen years ago, someone stole a HUGE back-up generator off the pad from one one the bank data processing computer buildings downtown. This site had just been mothballed due to a merger, so somebody knew somebody. Just brought in a crane and a flatbed on a weekend, and no-one driving down the four lane road paid any attention to what was going on in plain sight. Police no longer respond in person to "property crimes" in our state. Burglary of empty homes and vehicles is a misdemeanor, not a felony , unless guns are stolen. They take your report over the phone or internet, and give you a case number so you can file for insurance. Fingerprinting is for felonies only. I had to look at the police blotter in the paper to find out that my welder and tools from my truck were just part of a string that night in my neighborhood. My dog barking and waking me up was the only thing that kept them from taking everything. IF you have model/serial numbers AND engrave your ID on the items, AND it happens to turn up on a routine gun check of a pawn shop, you might get it back. No onus on the pawn shop or junkyard to verify where anyone got anything, just an ID check. The same guys show up with crap to sell every week, but the cops can't follow them or trace them, because that would be "profiling" or "harassment." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWHII Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 $16,000.00!!!????? What'er you smoking? Heavy scrap cast @ maybe .05 per pound X 9000 = $450.00. Grant, Your right I was smoking some good stuff. I thought about it after I posted it and realized I was wrong and could not get back to change it. I new someone would give me some XXXX for it. . I was thinking at $185 a ton and it would sell at $50 a ton here as a large bulk item. Sorry :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrismetalsmith Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 When I saw the title I was hoping someone got a 4B so cheap they were bragin'! Very sad instead. I'm on the east coast, but you all stay on the scrappers out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainely,Bob Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 IF you have model/serial numbers AND engrave your ID on the items, AND it happens to turn up on a routine gun check of a pawn shop, you might get it back. No onus on the pawn shop or junkyard to verify where anyone got anything, just an ID check. The same guys show up with crap to sell every week, but the cops can't follow them or trace them, because that would be "profiling" or "harassment." It might be money well spent to go down to the scrapyards where folks like this are bringing the stuff and trade the guy who offloads,sorts the incoming scrap or runs the scales $20-50 for some info.He probably knows who these guys are and where they come from as well as the vehicles they are using to haul it. It`s not harassment or profiling if a group of private citizens who have been victimized go visit these people and discuss things like the general health and life expectancy of people in their line of work. Sometimes if you want something done right you have to do it yourself. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Hanson Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 WOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrismetalsmith Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Monster, any word on what happened to that puppy? Thanks, from a Nazel owner and fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstermetal Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 She never was found... A very good search of scrap yards within hundreds of miles turned up nothing... Police said its common for big items like this to go straight to Mexico or china without ever hitting a scape yard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumptown Forge Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 She never was found... A very good search of scrap yards within hundreds of miles turned up nothing... Police said its common for big items like this to go straight to Mexico or china without ever hitting a scape yard... I hate to ask but any parts available. Sure could use a standard flywheel gear and guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstermetal Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 All the spares that are there I get but the flywheel and guard were on the hammer. I'll have a head, broken tup, anvil, guide ring and a motor but I think that's about it. Pretty sure all the compresser side stuff was in when it was taken. I am buying it's sister hammer and will get the other parts with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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