thingmaker3 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Like many smiths, I find fascination in the history of human ingenuity. I've read a lot about early bellows and the speculation of how they may have come about. Plenty of material from the bronze age bladders to Theophilus Presbyter's pig-skins to the famous double-lungers. But I find very little on centrifugal blowers. Based on written opinion of late 19th century smiths (who swore never to return to bellows after using a blower) I'd guess they are Edwardian at the earliest. Does anyone know for sure? Are they a German gadget? A French find? An English innovation? Where do blowers come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfshieldrx Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I think Al Gore invented them... ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arftist Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Clearly they were invented to relace the fillibuster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fciron Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I think Al Gore invented them... ;-) Al Gore was a noob. I blame Strom Thurmond. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I found some information at http://www.sturtevantfan.com/History.html The article says that the centrifugal fan dates back to the 16th century, but it was unclear why it wasn't more used over the years. Most of my forge blowers with the hand crank carry patent dates around the turn of the 20th century. http://www.turleyforge.com Granddaddy of Blacksmith Schools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinton Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Very interesting article there Frank, thank you for the history lesson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chyancarrek Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 The history of the fan is definitely one of those things you just take for granted. Thanks for asking the question TM3 - and to you Frank for a great little piece of history! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Centrifugal fans in Europe were often water powered along with trip hammers etc, see ref scythe works etc but what date they were first used, as said,is a good question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 May I commend to your attention "De Re Metallica", Agricola, wherein you will find a large number of devices for moving air and pumping water out of mines dating to the Renaissance. This is a must have book for anyone interested in the history of metals processes, it's available in English and fairly in expensive from Dover publishers. The massive number of original wood cuts in it make it a real treat! I believe that the major reason why centrifugal devices were not used as much for air was that to get a good pressure from them you need tight clearances or/and greater speed; both were much more expensive to produce than to use the simple bellows (which were ganged and then waterpowered too!) The "blowing engine" of the early industrial revolution was merely an advancement on the bellows using a positive displacement piston cylinder set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 So...would early versions have been made of (mostly) wood instead of metal? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dablacksmith Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 So...would early versions have been made of (mostly) wood instead of metal? Phil the ones ive seen referenced to were a combo of wood and sheet metal(1810-1870). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I think Al Gore invented them... ;-) Thats a blowhard, not a blower ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 One of the earliest I have seen was made from wood and feathers---in De Re Metallica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firebug Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 First you have a Daddy Blower and he finds a Mommy Blower and the Daddy Blower, well you know the rest of the story. I couldn't resist, sorry for the stupid reply. But that was a good question. I promise not to make a habit out of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrous Beuler Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 "Where do blowers come from"? I think they come from the blower fairy, honestly. I bought a Champion 400 from a man once for $50 and he threw in another complete but disassembled 400 for free. The blower fairy works in mysterious ways... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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