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I watched a video a few months back on this..I can't remember who the maker was but he stated that some folks thought cable damascus was "boring" so he placed a strand of nickel into the pattern while forging and twisting the cable (careful to keep it away from the edge cause nickel won't temper or sharpen well)..that's all I can remember about it but I believe the maker was located somewhere in Texas...maybe u cud try googling it or go on the bing search engine...

Gene

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It is a common practice for Bobby Rico to mix cable with damascus in many various ways. I have even seen some ha has made that looks like he has bamboo between the layers of cable. His web site is http://www.ricoknives.com/Welcome.html He is a great guy. I looked on his web site to try and get some pictures but I could not. It is hard to get him on the computer but if you call him I am sure he will email you some pics. Just tell him Lyle told you about him. He makes beatiful knives and sells them too cheap.
I am not trying to advertise Rico knives, he is a great man and is willing to help anyone, he spends his time hunting, working knife shows, or making knives.

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i decided to try it out. so i took some cable i had laying around and welded it. i drew the cable out to 1/4in. x 1/4in. and cut it into 6, 4in. sections. i then stacked it with bandsaw blades and welded the stack. as i was welding the stack the centermost weld didn't take and as i was straightening it it folded on top of itself. so i just decided to go with it and welded it together like that. after i finished welding it up i decided to give it a really severe twist to see what it would do to the pattern, when i was almost finished with the twist either a weld popped loose( or i just didn't have it welded together properly, probably that one) and i had to re weld it as i drew the twist square again. i plan to draw it down to 1/4in. x 1in. and however long it'll go. then ill cut it into appropriate lengths and weld it in a stack with "knife steel" (unknown steel sold to me from acme industrial surplus, although it is both quite hard and very springy). ill then give that a very light twist and then make it into whatever knife strikes my fancy :P

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I am just curious to know how you will heat treat the blade that contains " unknown knife steel"? With layered steel I like to use steels that are real similiar in wot they like for heat treatment. For instance I never mix steels that like to be quenched in water with those that prefer oil. I do really like that yoiu are trying things new to you and hope you keep a log of wot yoiud o and how it works oiut. That log will be like gold in the future when you either want to make something again like you already have or do not want a repeat. Lots of learning in the shop..soiundlike yoiu are spending time there and that is great.

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I am just curious to know how you will heat treat the blade that contains " unknown knife steel"? With layered steel I like to use steels that are real similiar in wot they like for heat treatment. For instance I never mix steels that like to be quenched in water with those that prefer oil. I do really like that yoiu are trying things new to you and hope you keep a log of wot yoiud o and how it works oiut. That log will be like gold in the future when you either want to make something again like you already have or do not want a repeat. Lots of learning in the shop..soiundlike yoiu are spending time there and that is great.


Hopefully his billet will be large enough that he can take 2-3 "stamps" off to practice heat treating and determine what is best. The stamps should be roughly the cross section of the blade, and big enough to manipulate easily.

Phil
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good idea, although i do know that all steels included in this billet are oil quenching(thank god lol)as i have made a crude knife out of the "knife steel" a while back. with just the cable and bandsaw steel it's around 1ib, i plan on doubling it with the other steel, i have a very strong suspicion that it's in the 10xx series because i cleaned up a piece and etched it and it came out this incredibly dark black, looked just like the pic of the etched 1084 i saw posted on here somewhere. although i worry that if it is 1084 or similarly high carbon the billet might be a bit too high carbon for anything that sees alot of stress, probably make better kitchen knives or something

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Ive welded a fair bit of bandsaw blade and enjoy its superbright pattern, Ive done a bit of reading up online and found that the backing steel used for bi-metal blades can contain upto 4% chrome, which explains its reluctance to weld sometimes! :blink:

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Right Phil, it's low layer. What I find intriguing about it, if ya look at the dark bars, that is the cable. The little tiny squiggly lines in the dark sections is aband of pure carben, so I am told. It's a product of the extruded strands. Makes it loojk like you have double the layers.


I don't see the pattern in the dark bands, even blowing the image up on this machine. It is still a beautiful blade.

Phil
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