brianbrazealblacksmith Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Here's some hammers Lyle, LDW, and I forged yesterday, 2 rounding hammers and 2 fullering hammers. Lyle gets his pick of the fullering hammers and the other will go to rapula in Columbia for 3 mini anvils that we traded while he was in the states working with my brother. The big rounding hammer is mine. The smaller one goes to "Tim the toolman" from Mississippi. Tim traded a 20 pound set hammer in brand new shape while we were at Fire in the Swamp last month for a hammer, and we finally got around to forging it. I still have to grind, heat treat, and handle them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinton Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Those look great Brian. What is the weight of the big one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted July 18, 2010 Author Share Posted July 18, 2010 I don't know, Clinton, I don't have a scale, but Lyle just showed up and said "let's go get a scale". I guess we're going to get a scale. We'll be back in a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted July 18, 2010 Author Share Posted July 18, 2010 We are back. The big hammer weighs 4 pounds 11 ounces. It started as 4 1/2 inches of 2 1/4 inch round 1045 which weighed 5 pounds, so we lost 5 ounces to scale minus the plug which weighed .15 ounces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapula Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Here's some hammers Lyle, LDW, and I forged yesterday, 2 rounding hammers and 2 fullering hammers. Lyle gets his pick of the fullering hammers and the other will go to rapula in Columbia for 3 mini anvils that we traded while he was in the states working with my brother. The big rounding hammer is mine. The smaller one goes to "Tim the toolman" from Mississippi. Tim traded a 20 pound set hammer in brand new shape while we were at Fire in the Swamp last month for a hammer, and we finally got around to forging it. I still have to grind, heat treat, and handle them. Nice hammers Brian, looking forward to working with one of those. I will not come to the states again till next year but, maybe you come down to see me before that time??... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinton Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 We are back. The big hammer weighs 4 pounds 11 ounces. It started as 4 1/2 inches of 2 1/4 inch round 1045 which weighed 5 pounds, so we lost 5 ounces to scale minus the plug which weighed .15 ounces. wow that is big indeed, so the other hammers are in the 3 1/2 lb range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon Sculpture Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Excellent work Brian, I'm always amazed and I especially love the touch mark that puts your hammers in a class of their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted July 18, 2010 Author Share Posted July 18, 2010 Thanks, guys! Clinton, the other hammers weigh 3 pounds 4 ounces, 3 pounds 5.5 ounces, and the small one which is out of 1 3/4 inch round weighs 2 1/2 pounds. rapula, I'd love to come to South America, but I don't leave home unless I have work and can afford to. If you give me your address, I'll mail it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longhunter Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Nice hammers Brian always enjoy seeing your work ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 Here are the finished hammers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 how do you temper the the fullering hammers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 I temper them by heating my drifts up and putting them in the hammer eye alternating sides each time. The middle of the hammer will show blue, and the faces straw after about three drifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 I found this old post and Lyle helped me paste it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofafeather Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Hi, Brian. Those are fantastic looking hammers! Thanks for sharing. Being somewhat new to this I am having a hard time figuring out the difference between the rounding and fullering hammers. Which is which and when would you choose one over the other? I am thinking that a rounding hammer has a round domed face and is used for dishing? A fullering hammer would be more like a peen? Sorry, a little confused. Great hammers, though! Also, seems like the hammer would work well with those using Hofi's method in terms of balance of the head and type of handle. Is that the case? Thanks! Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 Hi, Brian. Those are fantastic looking hammers! Thanks for sharing. Being somewhat new to this I am having a hard time figuring out the difference between the rounding and fullering hammers. Which is which and when would you choose one over the other? I am thinking that a rounding hammer has a round domed face and is used for dishing? A fullering hammer would be more like a peen? Sorry, a little confused. Great hammers, though! Also, seems like the hammer would work well with those using Hofi's method in terms of balance of the head and type of handle. Is that the case? Thanks! Eric Hey, Eric. The rounding hammer has the ball fuller, and the fullering hammer has the straight fuller. I use a hand hammer for most of my work, and different sized fullers or peens are my choices of dies to use. The rounding hammer has the largest selection of different sized fullers availiable, and the degree at which I tilt it determines the size of fuller I choose, since the ball end is not a true half sphere. The center of the ball has about a 4" radius, and when tilted the radius changes all the way to under 1/2" radius. I can also hit smaller spots with the rounding hammer. The fullering hammer has a 3" radius all the way across, and that is my most common choice of die for drawing and isolating material with half hammer faced blows over the edges of the anvil. The rounding hammer works like a true fuller on smaller stock, but when I am striking across 1" or more I need to switch to the fullering hammer. The cross peen hammer is not as versitile as the rounding and fullering hammer because all it has is a flat face and a straight fuller of a given size. I have that on my flat face when I tilt it or not. I do use a cross peen when making things like calla lilies, spatulas, and shovels where I am doing an extreme lateral draw. Anyone can shape their handles to what they prefer. I personally prefer my handles rectangular all the way. Most of my work is done by tilting my hammer to some degree, and the flat sides of the handle make this easy to control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofafeather Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Brian, Thanks for the great explanation. It's pretty amazing what you can accomplish with the rounding hammer! Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 I temper them by heating my drifts up and putting them in the hammer eye alternating sides each time. The middle of the hammer will show blue, and the faces straw after about three drifts. what about the striking end of the fullering hammer...seems to me it should be softer so as not to chip when hit with another hammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosterob Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 A hammer is not a top tool even though they look similar and and have handles. Hammers should not be struck with other hammers. I think what Brian was saying is his hammers have a fuller on them instead of a cross peen and he explained the difference and how he uses them. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofafeather Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 what about the striking end of the fullering hammer...seems to me it should be softer so as not to chip when hit with another hammer From what I gather this hammer can be used to make fullers, kind of like pein on a cross-pein hammer. It's not actually a handled top-tool meant to be struck. That's just my impression, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfootnampa Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Brian has such accuracy with his hammers that he tends to use them as top tools and strikes with his swing... that's what he is trying to say. He is NOT using them as traditional top tools struck with another hammer. Looking at his work it should be obvious that the man has outstanding if not astonishing hammer control! Even my own hammer accuracy amazes me and it's nowhere NEAR Brian's level. People have some incredible physical potentials! The AVERAGE human being has stunning hand/eye control... I would suggest that Brian is pretty far from average! At least as applicable to smithing skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric sprado Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Brian: Are your hammer eyes punched straight through,tapered from one side,or do they have a waist in the middle(tapered from both ends)? thanks, Eric S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 what about the striking end of the fullering hammer...seems to me it should be softer so as not to chip when hit with another hammer I think we are getting hung up on terminology and descriptions here. I interpret Brians definitions as rounding hammers and fullering hammers, and Brian also refers to dies, his dies are the hammer heads and their shapes, and uses The rounding hammers have various radiussed faces from small to large(Nearly flat) and can be used to concentrate blows as required, or to apply a finish and are the general purpose forging tool The fullering hammers are used FOR making a fullering blow on the stock being forged, not AS fullers, it is describing the action not the tool. I don't know if this helps or not, getting you head round descriptions can be quite difficult, and I may well have got my perception wrong, perhaps Brian will clarify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 I'm talking about his fullering hammers like the ones he uses in class to make the groove around each face of the hammer he has several different sizes and they are struck with a hammer ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 I'm talking about his fullering hammers like the ones he uses in class to make the groove around each face of the hammer he has several different sizes and they are struck with a hammer ... Like I said, its in the description, what you are defining here is a wood handled fuller (Used in combination with the corresponding bottom tool,) which could also be a rodded fuller, or just a hand held fuller. I agree that you do not strike the face of any hammer which is why they are just called fullers, or fullering tools, and are used to spread metal, or used in pairs to introduce grooves or waistings or other shapes used in forging like on the hammer heads Brian makes, and come in many sizes and sometimes specialist types, eg Cheese fullers for making heel bar tenons. Does not Brian have a tool under neath the hammer head he is forging when he uses this fuller? A fullering hammer is a hand hammer one end of which is used to fuller or spread the metal, and a business end on the other to your required shape, and is used as a hand hammer, as opposed to a fuller which is used with the help of a sledge hammer or some other means of imparting extra weight to the blow, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 the other to your required shape, and is used as a hand hammer,of a sledge hammer or some other means of imparting extra weight to the blow, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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