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  1. So then the flip side of the coin, if you are too bitter and have the need to feed your ego too much, or by taking out one newbie's sins out on the next newbie, then newbie's will ask themselves are these people worth the trouble? If I have to pay for the last guy who annoyed you it may be a price I am unwilling to pay......do this enough and be too bitter of an old man and you will have happen what happens to many an old bitter man before you, no one will listen and the world will lose the information you carry with you to your grave......valuable information yes, but very invaluable if it dies with you..... irish bagpipe makers where down to 4 in 1968 many died too bitter and too proud to pass it on, much of their knowledge is now lost to this world, rotting in a grave somewhere. There are now over 200 full time makers of the Uilleann pipes, because they realized it was dying with them and change had to be made. Its a shame that the male ego often leads to this conclusion, imagine all the trades info we would have at our disposal if ego, self serving and plain old grouchiness where not a factor in driving the youth away from tradeswork.......
  2. Mr. Powers, I never said the hammer WOULD fail there! Just that it was more likely to than a different material...... good try though! Hahahahaha
  3. Oh and ultimately no hard feelings and I would still be willing to call you my freind one day!
  4. I believe he was talking to me, and if anything my long post can be called BS on not because it is untrue, but because it's hopelessly ridiculous, that is exactly what I was trying to point out, to jump on a beginner because he is one and not for having bad attitude or spreading falsehoods, is just bullying. If I had said welded face hammers will come apart stay away! I would expect it! Remember because a beginner is new to smithing does not mean that he is avoid of knowledge altogether, I have been a tradesman for 25 yrs, and live my life as a student of the trades, and why they work, and how to do better work. Smithing is very new to me yes, but I learned to weld at 7 and began building with wood at 5-6. I want nothing more than to be knocked down if I misspeak that is how we learn, but be advised if I do not know I will not say anything.......years of getting knocked down after misspeaking will teach you to keep your mouth shut rather than give false advice. but alas I am an Irishman, and we don't take well to injustice, and if we know we are right or just, we fight for it! Knowing that my original advise was just, you started at a disadvantage. So my amount of experience has no bearing on the usefullness of a welded face hammer, because the welded face hammer was a good one before I was born........ oh oh and stress fatigue does affect hammers it would just take thousands of years to fail in the way I described!!!
  5. So that I can take this opportunity to learn something I will be less vague, allowing you to fully hear what I was saying, and lead me away from any misdirection that I was given. a hard material is always more brittle in relation to a softer material, just by nature of hardness and relativity, there are a few exceptions to this rule of coarse. repeted impact on a harder material will develop stress fatigue in that material faster and more acutely that in relationship to a softer one. However a softer material while less susceptible to stress fatigue is more susceptible to force malformation than a given harder material. In the case of a hammer's needs, the work forces being what they are.....we apply direct forces to generally two areas of the tool, these areas tend to be larger and more massive (having mass) than other areas not directly under force. Again eceptions to a rule may apply. indirect forces are applied throughout the tool and these areas tend to be less massive I.E. The eye, and in the case of carpenters hammers the claw. given enough time and force impact an eye of harder more brittle material will fail before an eye of softer less brittle material. given enough time and force impact a face of softer less brittle material will malform before a face of harder more brittle material. If one wishes to take advantage of both of these properties within one tool it stands to reason that a faces of harder material can be applied to the body of softer material, combining the strengths of both materials while avoiding the weaknesses inherently in both as well. Doing such greatly reduces the effects of force applied to all areas in question and greatly increases the usefull life of a hammer. now on to why a hammer constructed as such would be advantageous to the user...... A harder material has strength in its ability to not malform under force impact, rebounding back very quickly to its original shape A softer material does not and tends to " give" apon impact deforming much more before rebounding back into shape During the time between impact and rebound force is being transferred into what we hope is hot iron/steel a harder material will apply force for a shorter time in relationship to to a softer material A softer material will will apply force over a longer period than its harder counterpart, however the soft material will not use this energy as efficiently due to force being used by the larger amount of deformation prior to rebound So hard = fast efficient........soft =slow less efficient This is in regards to use of force in the working time between impact and rebound and again is just a relitivity between the two. This being said it stands to reason that a hammer constructed as discussed earier would have the advantage of the face being hard, efficiently delivering the force to the work while the softer body of the tool would slightly lengthen the time between impact and rebound. As such it would apply more force over a longer period greatly effecting the reaction of the receiver of the impact...I.E. Move more metal. In the end one would deduce that said hammer would, all other things equal, last longer under forces applied, and also deliver force to the work more efficiently and cause a favorable outcome per impact.
  6. I'm just curious if there is anything I said that you disagree with? Anything I may have said that was untrue? if there is I would welcome the chance to have my reality corrected, never too proud to have learned something that was false and be willing to learn from another point of view. i think I use fewer words that can be viewed as vague, but all needed info is present. I'm just not a long winded man.
  7. I do not own such a hammer, I have heard a few smiths say they are good, one said his favorite hammer was constructed as such. I guess i should have have said if the hammer looks to be made with some skill, AKA does not look as though a beginner made it. If the overall craftsmanship of a hammer with welded faces was sloppy I would question the skill with witch it was made. Would you disagree frosty, maybe I have been mislead? The he one I saw was wrought iron with steel faces, so it was quite easy to see the material difference.
  8. I would take a chance on a hammer with a welded steel face, if it looks like it was done with skill. Anytime you take advantage of the strengths of two materials you have the end product quality in mind. It's a lot of work if you are making junk tools, but worth it if your end goal is quality.
  9. What area of Pennsylvania are you in, I am about an hour north of pittsburgh.
  10. I also have used a large one to break stone, if you run a vein or fracture you can make square blocks of stone ( barn stone).
  11. I never had much trouble when I showed up with a cigar and a bottle of scotch or the like, plus a good attitude! i have a master bagpipe maker/woodturner friend, and several master pipers and have never gone wrong with being quiet....
  12. I agree not worth buying, but might be worth making for a hole this size, could make a Frankenstein tool that starts as a broach and ends as a drift......just to make the task go more quickly......
  13. Does anyone still make broaches for squaring a drilled hole?
  14. I will only add to the silver solder part, check for flat after it is all done, when soldering large plates if the faces are not joint quality, the solder can "pool" and create a high spot in the middle. This is something that woodworking plane makers deal with when they make the nice brass and steel planes. Might be best to take it to get milled when done if there is a large pool.
  15. Just in case anyone does burn galv, and starts getting the stomach vibrations ( you will understand when it happens) drink milk and a bunch while you go to where ever you go for treatment.
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