Dragon's Lair: A bit confused at your really angry sounding reaction to my reply.I was trying to help as best as I could like most folks here do. I guess I'm not the hot shot welder you are,but I did keep Kodiak Coast Guard Base pretty well maintained while I was there as a pipe welder. Admittedly it was 200 years ago in the 70's and,as I said,I haven't kept up with new technology... Maybe I misinterpreted your reply.......