Frosty, Never had Ptarmagin, is it like Pheasant or sage hen...? EVERYTHING taste better on a camp fire! I was thinking of foot pegs to push the rods down in the ground if needed as well. Thomas, One of these days, maybe between trips, an easy trip for you would be to cut over off highway 25 over on 152 and take a little trip up to Lake Roberts, I think you would enjoy that area. Spent my childhood in that area, and up the Gila on horseback. That's when one of Frosty's small roaster would have been handy, as all we usually had was a cast iron skillet. Now, I'm just the opposite of the young lady Frosty worked with, take the camp trailer, since I'm old, fat and broken. Look forward to a pic of yours! Regards to all.