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  1. The axle idea works well if you don't mind the small face. I don't disagree with the counterweight idea, with one caveat. Some of them are made of cast iron, which is a terrible thing to discover after lugging one home. You can find out which ones those are very easily though, they make more of a dull thunk than a ring when you hit one with a hammer.
  2. I'm a good bit north of that, but I can keep an eye out. Distance-wise it's not very far at all, maybe 55 miles, but with traffic on I-5 and the ferry, it can take two hours to get to Seattle, some days it's easily three or more. If I make a ball mill, I can get all you can eat from crushed kitty litter, the cheap stuff. I've wanted one for a while, but ya know...make a tool to make a tool to make a tool...
  3. I think they use it to make glazes opaque, so pottery places may have it, although I'm scared to look at the prices. I was mad enough about the sodium bentonite. I paid $60 for a 50-pound bag at a pottery joint in Tacoma when I went down to drill, and I used to get it as a pond liner at feed and seeds for maybe $6. Tried five places up here and only one even knew what it was. Nearest place that might have it or fireclay was two hours away in Everett. In the end, I paid without complaining, but it got me thinking about rigging a ball mill up again and it certainly has me looking at harvesting wild clays. That's probably not economical either - in the end, it will cost me the time I could have used to make twice as much money and just buy what I want, but at some point, the whole fun of playing with metal is making something yourself from scratch. You just have to decide for yourself how far to take that.
  4. Good evening, My old casting furnace came up from Georgia with some stuff I had in storage, and my wife has gotten interested in green sand casting, so I bought her a couple of the old Gingery book series and I've been slowly assembling the bits and pieces for the sand, the flask, tools, etc. I still haven't replaced my crucibles, and although I'm sure that I will buy some proper, or at least cheap Chinese versions of proper crucibles, the last time I stopped I had begun experimenting with ceramics and had made a couple of plinths that held up well for several melts. I'll probably get the Vince Gingery book on making your own crucibles, but I'm looking at recipes and the like online. I can get better fireclay eventually on the mainland, but right now what I've got is sodium bentonite, and there are the usual wild clays from the glacial leavings up here I can process easily enough. From most of what I've seen, more temper needs to be added than normal; rather than the 20% or so added to a wild clay to fire it in earthenware, it looks like a mix of more like 60 percent of silica sand or powdered grog with the remainder as fireclay for crucibles. I'm also curious as to whether you can add alumina to clay to improve its thermal survivability. Preheating is of course crucial, anything homemade will be retired after a few pours if successful and I'll post any experiments on here, including the glorious failures from thermal shock and bad recipes. If anything, I'm planning precautions with the expectation of more failures initially than success. Heck, I've had failures from "good crucibles", and ask me how I first found out that molten aluminum gradually eats away the walls of heavy steel crucibles. (It involved my shoe soles going click click click everywhere I walked until I bought new ones). Any thoughts from someone more experienced in this? Fair warning to anyone considering this, casting is inherently dangerous. I would recommend to any beginner to spend the money on good equipment and PPE, including premade crucibles. I also recommend they take classes or find a mentor with experience, and although I respect the people on iforgeiron, I would recommend not learning from most online sites or influencers. I got started in metal working by learning casting from online sites and I consider myself lucky to only have a few weird scars and to have gotten zinc fume poisoning once before I looked for better sources of information.
  5. I see them occasionally in the places you find really old tools, like a farm auction or the kind of flea market or place that sells antique stuff from estate sales cheap without too much pretense. Got one in my garage I got at an auction in Cartersville, GA with a bunch of long yard tools; I've used it to move stuck cars, lift septic tank lids, and bust rocks in post holes. Surprisingly, the usual chain knock-off tool places sell them too, for relatively cheap.
  6. I'm not 100%, but that profile screams Hay Budden farrier anvil to me, and that serial marking would make it about 1908-ish, I think. You'd have to check with someone that has Anvils in America.
  7. I've got nothing much to add on the origins of hammers, but I will say that cheap used hammers from flea markets are favorite for modifying without feeling bad about it. One of my all-time favorite forging hammers is a three-pound diagonal peen that started out heavier and more inclined to ideographic writing. I just ground down a little at a time alternating with water just enough to prevent it from heating up and affecting the temper. You can change the peen, swap or cut down the handles, make texturing hammers by changing the face, or if you're really confident about your heat treating, forge it into a different tool altogether. Lots of people enjoy making ball peen tomahawks, but you can be a lot more creative if you put your mind to it. And if you mess up, you're only out the time and a few bucks.
  8. I would tend to argue that no, in a lot of ways I'm not the same person, although I'm similar. Continuity is a slippery concept. If you replaced the tires on your car tomorrow at 08:00, then the alternator at 08:10, tie rods at 08:30, and so on until the last piece was replaced by lunch time, it would be a tougher argument. Or what if you gradually replaced the parts with say, until it was entirely made up of the parts for a 74 Dodge Dart? At that point would it still be whatever it is you drive now, which I can only assume is a 70 Mustang with the 429 and the Shaker hood?
  9. I enjoy the technique, although my welding isn't up to par. Kind of the "Anvil of Theseus". There was a philosophical thought experiment in which a the "Ship of Theseus" went to sea and along the way, needed the sails repaired. A few hundred miles and a storm or two later, it required new planking and caulking. A couple of years in, the anchor need replacing, it then got a new rudder, and so on and so on until nothing was left of the original ship. The philosophical question was...is it still the same ship? There was also a shorter version in John Dies at the End involving an axe and a fascist reanimated zombie. If you replace the heel, then the horn, then the body over time, is it still the same anvil?
  10. I haven't, although it looks like a fun project. I have played with fresnel lenses and I've meant numerous times to build a fresnel lens solar heater to lessen the heating bill over the winter. My wife starts getting antsy though when I start talking about putting a hole anywhere in the house, can't imagine why....
  11. Irondragon, Carroll County - that's up on the Buffalo somewhere, or near Eureka Springs? Used to live in Arkadelphia about a hundred thousand years ago.
  12. Good evening, beeswax is one of the most important ingredients in a lot of finishing pastes, and I don't know how many other beekeepers we have in the forums, but I got into it through mead making, and ended up with a fair amount of wax from uncapping honey. Unfortunately, with the wax, you often end up with a bit of honey, larva, pollen, and all other sorts of goodies in the mix, so I thought I would share how to clean up the wax to get rid of all the gunky crumbly bits in the bottom, especially for those of you that get wax indirectly. The next time I do this, I'll add some pics, but it might be next year. First, get a double boiler that your wife won't mind you destroying. Don't ever, ever use the kitchenware for your bee stuff. This includes colanders, sieves, funnels, and if I could avoid it, the stove. Drop cloths in pouring areas are also a good idea. Cold beeswax is a pain in the tuckus to get off. That's why it's wonderful as an ingredient. Fill the bottom of the double boiler up to the line, then the top maybe halfway or a little and bring the bottom water to a boil. When the top starts to get hot, reduce the temperature, you don't really want it above 180, the wax melts at 140-ish, but you'll drop the temperature a bit when you add the wax. Add wax to several layers of cheesecloth and then tie it off in a knot, like a hobo's bindle (look at the bag on a stick on old Looney Tunes cartoons). You can tie this to a spoon or dangle it from cord if you like. You can get cheesecloth in the utensil section of the local supermarket. Submerge the bindle and let the wax melt into the water. Don't try to do too much wax at once, you'll end up with a mess. 1-2 lbs seems to be the limit for a standard double boiler, although you can melt them together or mold them later. Really filthy wax sometimes can take a second filtration, but I have almost never needed one. You may, if you're as impatient as I am, find it useful to squeeze the bindle from time to time or press it with a spoon, but be careful, as second degree burns suck, and also cheesecloth tears easily. Turn off the water and let it cool completely. This goes faster if you put the boiler in a bain marie (ice water bath), but it isn't necessary. You'll end up with a clean disc of wax on top of the water that comes out fairly easily, although you may have to run a knife around the rim. Clean-up is also pretty easy, submerge the stuff with beeswax in boiling water and it will float to the top, although inevitably a little will stick to the sides. IMPORTANT NOTE: have fire extinguishers or something similar on hand. Wax is extremely flammable if you boil it over or spill onto the burners!!! Good luck, and holler if you have bee or mead related questions.
  13. Good evening, A blacksmith's paste I've played with over the years was a mix of olive oil and beeswax in varying ratios. It protects metal well but is a bit softer than something like linseed, so it tends not to hold up as well when in use. Great for storage or wall hangers though. Where it really shined was as a wood polish. I've heard of it being used in candles and soaps too, but it certainly smells better than linseed. I also played with different solvents, acetone, mineral spirits and the like, and it seemed to get into the material a bit better.
  14. Keep going, they look great cleaned up. I pulled the gears on mine, but something had been living in it and there were acorns and insect parts and all other kinds of weirdness. Runs like a dream now. I completely second the ATF/acetone combo.
  15. As far as it goes, Mr. Rogue, I think you would like my method of heat treatment and would encourage you to try it once or twice, but not going to cry myself to sleep you don't. Ask four blacksmiths how to do something and you'll get six answers. At least two of them will be grouchy. One of my favorite heat treat methods to date was the one in the Weygers book where they drove the blade edge into a piece of fruit, leaving the spine uncovered (and soft). In the meantime, I'm glad you're enjoying smithing. Sorry if I stirred something up. Latticino, those are lovely and graceful curves, a pretty bit of work. It's been coming down cats and dogs in my work area yesterday and today, (wind and rain going sideways) so all I did was make some new tuyere covers (i.e. I cut and ground up some stainless-steel sawblades into circles and drilled holes). On redesigning for charcoal, I was going to replace my 55/brake disc forge with a JABOD forge in a more trench-ish shape, but now I'm thinking maybe stay with a gentler bottom blast and fill the top with a clay sand mix to turn it into more of a trench, with a couple of dirt/adobe walls to give it a trench shape in the middle for a deeper charcoal fire. Sure, they might not last forever, but they would be easy to move or rebuild as needed. As a forge, it's neither fish, nor foul, nor good red meat, but I think it should work well and save fuel. Call it a just-a-55/brake-disk-of-dirt forge. JA55OD, and if I don't like it, back to a more conventional design.
  16. As I recall, I picked this up from a few treatises on heat treatment, a book or four, including I think Mr. Sells book, and old conversations with blacksmiths on the site. As I recall it had to do with transitioning austenite to martensite, and I have some really lovely diagrams of this over time that I can't find for the life of me. I used to read everything I could find on metallurgy, but I'm only getting back into forging and casting after being out of the game for a few years, so I'm a bit rusty on the technical whys and wherefores sometimes. I feel like there was a section on it in The New Edge of the Anvil. On a more practical note, the main reason I recommend it is that after it was suggested, I tried it and found that it worked much better than with blades that I did a quick heat treat by reheating a blade briefly with a torch or the forge, or by retaining heat in a thicker part of the metal and allowing it to run back into the steel to reach an oxide color, although admittedly that way is fun and feels more like you are performing fine art or black magic. Color is not a great way to gauge temper over longer heat treatment cycles because although the metal doesn't soften further, the oxide layer causing coloration builds up, so instead of straw, you may end up with blue, purple, or colors that would normally indicate higher tempers. I don't want to hurt your feelings, but if your blade isn't hard after two two-hour heat cycles at 400 to 450 degrees, then it was never fully hardened to begin with. Your forge work and blade profile is nice enough that it deserves a proper heat treatment to match. Give my way a shot; don't even worry about risking a blade on it, just a thin coupon or bar about the same thickness as a knife will do. If it doesn't work, you haven't lost anything but a little electricity and time. Normalize two or three times (i.e. heat to non-magnetic and then let cool to air temp), then heat to 100 degrees past non-magnetic, quench in oil, if not hard with a file test (i.e. file skates and makes a glassy sound), try again with ever more aggressive quenches (water, brine, super-quench) until it is. Put in at 400 to 450 for two hours, let it sit overnight, do it again, call it a day. Best of luck to you.
  17. So if that's coil spring, it could be a lot of different materials, but 5160-ish is a good general guess for most coil spring. The good news is that most tend to be an oil quench with a similar heat treat: Normalize first, then heat to non-magnetic plus maybe 100 degrees, quench in oil, temper between 400 to 450 for a couple of hours. Let set from a few hours to overnight and temper again. Of course, with no coupons, that's not a sure thing, but you can test if it hardened by skating a file across it prior to tempering and listening for the glassy sound and seeing if it bites in. If it does and no glassy sound, try again with a more aggressive quench - i.e. water, then brine, then super-quench and devout prayer. Trying multiple quenches has its own issues plus increasing the chance of failure, and of course don't sell anything made from used spring as getting sued when it breaks sucks. Mystery-5160-ite tends to be more forgiving than most steels but has its own issues. For one, 5160 doesn't like to weld to itself...which meant that naturally it was the first thing I ever tried to forge weld, so I thought I was doing everything wrong for the longest time...
  18. Lakeside was a brand name for Columbus Forge and Iron, the same brand that made Trentons. Cast steel, not iron, and every bit as good as a Trenton from what I've heard. Nice find. I usually draw down on the far side. Guess Mr. Ruhlen liked his anvils horn left.
  19. Good evening, I've used the 55 gallon drum cut down. It worked pretty well, but I had better luck with a 20-gallon drum set just barely over the fire pot so they more or less side drafted. Automotive places have them sometimes; the chemicals are expensive, but to them the empty drums are just trash. I got a ZEP brake flush drum from one that size once and used it outside for four years before the poor thing rusted out.
  20. Well, still in the gradual rebuild phase and worked today, so didn't have huge amounts of time, but I managed to dig out my little Columbian that got soaked when the ocean came to see us this January. We had about 15 or 16 inches of ocean in our storage area and the poor thing took a soaking, so after a few months it looked fairly horrific with rust and salt stains. Wire wheeled it followed by BLO and it looked so good my other anvils got jealous and wanted some BLO for themselves. Next step, I think, is ditching the coal style set up for a sideblast JABOD more suitable for charcoal.
  21. It can be found, just go casually rummaging around five minutes after you no longer need it, and preferably after you've given up and bought or made a replacement. At least that's how it works in my shop.
  22. I'd say make them shorter, and stick to thin stock if they're going to be hung in a tree. I made a hunch of icicles for a few years and even small ones tended to really pull at all but the firmest of branches. Iron makes lovely ornaments, but it's heavy!
  23. Didn't make anything as pretty as those tools, JLP, but I did get the anvil stands a bit down the road. The glue finally cured, sanded the tops flat, checked them for size, charred 'em, and started on the bands. Forgot how fiddly getting the corners right can be, especially when I wasn't used to charcoal when I did forge. Felt like I went through fuel way faster than coal. Probably doing it wrong, but at least I hit hot steel today.
  24. Cut and glued up some dimensional lumber for a couple of anvil stands. Flattening the top, banding, etc. still to go. I hate waiting for the glue to dry. Dogs are there to hold boards down and for moral support.
  25. I've been absent from blacksmithing and from this site for some time. Found out today that Glenn had passed, and moments ago about Thomas. To their family and friends, I am sorry for their loss, the world was a better place for having met them. I learned a lot from each, and I am sorry to know they're gone. The world is dimmer without them.
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