Black Maple Forge Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Can anyone tell me if this is galvanized or not?:confused: I am fully aware of the risks of heavy metal poisoning:o, and want to know if this would be safe to heat up. Yes, it is a trash can lid... Thanks! Quote
Warren Nakkela Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 Sure as you're born it's galvanized. It it's a garbage can lit ant it isn't plastic it's zinc coated steel. If you are not heating it it is safe. Millions upon millions of gallons of potable water have been delivered through galvanized pipes. Fumes from heated zinc can be harmful. I don't think that zinc is classified as a heavy metal along with lead, mercury and cadmium. You can toss your lid into an outdoor fire just stay upwind, but only if you are out in a rural area. This should burn the zinc off. Warren Quote
littlewolfsmithy Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 I see no rust on there, so id say galvanized. Quote
Steve Sells Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 You can toss your lid into an outdoor fire just stay upwind, but only if you are out in a rural area. This should burn the zinc off.Warren Do not burn it off, it IS dangerous. What makes people think a bonfire is less dangerous for toxic fumes than a forge?:o Quote
Black Maple Forge Posted January 31, 2009 Author Posted January 31, 2009 I had a feeling it was galvanized, but I wanted a few other opinions just in case;). Thanks for clarifying that! I might just use it as a rain block for something or rather...:D Quote
Cool Hand Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 Ah, just paint it and use it as a shield the next time a Ren fest shows up....lol Quote
Warren Nakkela Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 (edited) Steve, There is no evidence that exposure to low levels of zinc is dangerous. In fact metal fumes are common in welding/brazing shops. This includes zinc fumes. I stated that to heat outdoors and to stay upwind of the fire. Zinc is a needed mineral for proper bodily function. It is misleading to characterize zinc along with many other dangerous metals. Iron fumes are also dangerous but are acceptable. And so is zinc at low levels. Warren Warrenaddition by staff: This statement about zink levels is not necessarily correct, and common is not always safe. Small amounts of Arsenic are also needed for survival, but generally exposure to that is also a bad idea. Please read the sticky on zink fumes. Edited February 5, 2009 by mod07 staff warning added Quote
unkle spike Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 yes it is.... If you are looking for something for a forge, try a Disc for Ag use, they sell the replacement ones at coops and other farm stores.... Quote
unkle spike Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 Steve, There is no evidence that exposure to low levels of zinc is dangerous. In fact metal fumes are common in welding/brazing shops. This includes zinc fumes. I stated that to heat outdoors and to stay upwind of the fire. Zinc is a needed mineral for proper bodily function. It is misleading to characterize zinc along with many other dangerous metals. Iron fumes are also dangerous but are acceptable. And so is zinc at low levels. Warren Warren Although you are "probably" right, I would never give someone the green light to work with zinc in "low level". People vary in there tolerance to stuff, and what may be ok in one instance may injure of kill another. Also with the importation of metals these days you never know what something could contain. There may also be lead or other heavy metals. Me I say air on the side of caution and don't do it. "well this zinc didn't make me sick, I can do this other piece" Or "that one didn't kill me, so I can do the same with some galvy pipe couldn't I?" I am with steve on this one.... Quote
Glenn Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 Galvanized, zinc, fumes, and milkZinc, Cadmium, Hydrogen Fluoride and other toxic compounds Quote
Llabak Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 Hi All I've got a followup: I'm going to head over to the scrap dealer for the first time this week and I'm worried that I'll end up picking up something that's not safe. Other than galvanized, which I think I can recognize, what other things should I stay away from? Quote
Llabak Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 If it's shiny, leave it alone. Words to live by! Thanks :) Quote
ralphy Posted February 3, 2009 Posted February 3, 2009 It look's gavanized to me also, I'd put it back on the trash can. May we ask why you want to heat it? Quote
Black Maple Forge Posted February 3, 2009 Author Posted February 3, 2009 It look's gavanized to me also, I'd put it back on the trash can. May we ask why you want to heat it? I didn't REALLY want to heat it, but it is sturdy:rolleyes:, and may be around a lot of heat if I choose to use it for anything... Except a rain block for outside steel storage (Probable new use!). Quote
saintjohnbarleycorn Posted February 3, 2009 Posted February 3, 2009 you can get nice discs from farmers, they start out fairly large and they wear them down to 8 to 12" or so, plenty of good stuff there, including those curved chopping knives the added benefit they are already thinned out at the edge! Quote
ralphy Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 I'd say that as long as it's not in direct heat or flame it should be ok, just make sure no smoke comes from it. Quote
ralphy Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) As you know the smoke can make you ill, if in doubt, use carbon steel;) Edited February 5, 2009 by ralphy already posted . Quote
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