hammerkid Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Looks good James!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucegodlesky Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 James, seems like you're havin' fun while you are working :-) Good job!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug C Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Bentiron, Check out your zoning laws. In my town any 10 X 10 structure needs no permit. It just has to be 15 feet off the property line. You may be able to build something without permit at all if you can deal with a smaller building. Also you could just tell them your putting in a wood burning stove and let them inspect away. Now using coal is another thing. Not allowed in close to the center of town where I am, But no one asks and I don't tell.:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnsrgn Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Don't forget the most important part, The Horseshoe over the door! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Doug C., This ain't Boston. This is Cave Creek,AZ and I have a little thing called covenants, codes and restrictions. I can't put up anything, nothing, zilch, nada on my property with out permission of the homeowners association first, then the county. The first thing is the HOA and the CC&R's and they don't allow 10'X10' nothings, no how, no way in this neighborhood not even a storage shed. If you ever look to buy a new house the first thing you need to do is check and see if it has a HOA and CC&R's and if it does DON'T buy the house no matter how good the deal. The HOA will hound, harass, and otherwise make your life a misery unless you march to their tune. Live free and don't live in an area that has an HOA.:mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug C Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Bentiron, Good advice. Deb and I will be downsizing in a few years as all 4 kids are now in college. Guess I need to move a little further from civilization so I can do what I want with fewer prying eyes. Know anyone nearby with a big lot, no HOA and a willingness to let you use 100 sq feet of their back yard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRobb Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Bentiron, I agree with you. I live in a deed restricted comunity with a HOA. No sheds, no parking in the street, no commercial vehicles, trailers, boats, etc. I can't even paint my house the SAME color without writing a letter to inform them. It really..........well........to tone ot down a lot, it stinks. The only good thing about the deed restrictions is that it keeps our property values up. Oh, and I don't have room at home for a shop, even if they permited it. I have to drive 8 to 10 miles to my office to do any smithing. Or stay late after work. Which makes me miss time with the family. ( On the possitive side, at least I do HAVE a shop ) Ok, my turn to get off the soap box......... NEXT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRobb Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 (edited) Sorry, I missed the point of the thread. Great shop Jayco!! Mitch Edited October 21, 2008 by MRobb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Yes, That is the point of this thread. Jayco does indeed have a great shop.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayco Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 MRobb,Bentiron, I thought I was having problems....bending nails.....finding time to bend nails. I guess I should count my blessings that I can build a shop! From the posts I've read, there are a lot of folks that are in one way or another 'restricted' and can't. These past few weeks I've made little progress in actually moving in the shop, but I'm pretty close to making what we around here call "a real showing". I've been nailing some of the 'battening' over the cracks between the siding boards and have my electrical stuff all ready. Most importantly, for me anyway, I've been experimenting with what type of forge setup I'm going to use in the new shop. I have a 4 ft. x 40in.x 1/4 in plate that will most likely become the table for the forge. I've made a 3 in. round tee to go under it.......must do something for a firepot.......Havn't decided on that one yet. I've got a little portable forge set up in the old shop so I don't suffer 'smithing withdrawl'....... And here are a few pics........ That's the 3 in. tee in the car wheel forge The one on the steel frame is my portable forge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRobb Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Jayco, sorry to vent on your thread. The problems some of us in "restricted" areas are just speed bumps on the road to progress. I guess a little frustration comes with it. You have a great shop coming along. Please keep the pics coming. We are enjoying your progress. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Being a little paranoid about fire I think I would put some gypboard around the area where the forge goes to protect the wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayco Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 Bentiron,you're right about the fire hazard near the forge. I haven't gotten pics of the inside yet, but there's 24 in. wide roofing metal on the inside walls near the ground (sort of underpinning'. That will be a big help with fire safety, but there are also 2 x 4 stretchers running 12 in. high from the ground. I will have to put flashing metal over these 2x4's to keep sparks and hot bits of metal from starting a fire there. A smoldering ember in a crevice,forgotten, can be the end of a wooden structure. I saw an old wood structure shop once that had all the horizontal beams hewn in such a way, with a peak, that no hot metal could stay there without rolling off to the ground. evidently, the builders were thinking 'fire safety'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dablacksmith Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 nice looking shop ! it is real similar to my shop at the museum.. are you going to have people stopping by to watch?if so you might try what i did and have part of one wall hinge up for a opening . it allows people to watch without being in shop and gives good ventelation also.just a thought... good job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayco Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 dablacksmith, I plan to put in a set of double doors when I can,...for a few reasons increased ventilation in summer for getting larger pieces in and out...and as you said if someone wants to watch, they can have a full view of everything from outside the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayco Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 I got the forge set up and of course....had to try it! The forge table is 40 x 36 in.........with 8 x10 in. rectangular fire pot. Haven't got the side draft flue in yet, so I used charcoal (less smoke)! Here are some pics.......more in my 'New Shop' album in the gallery.. I haven't moved the anvil,post vise,tools,stock, or anything else yet. There is still much to do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnr Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Looking REAL good there! Finnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRobb Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Looks good Jayco!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welder19 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Are you getting enough draft? It's always harder to tell about some things with only a picture to refrence. welder19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayco Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 Welder19, I don't have the side draft flue set up yet. What you see in the pics is just a piece of 10in. Stove pipe laying on the forge table. When I get everything set up, I will post more pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welder19 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Oh ok, didn't want to sound like I was knockin your set up but it just was'nt sucking like I like to see, otherwise lookin good, it's always exciting to be able to build more room to spread out into. welder19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyGeorge Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Looks like you have a lot of room for tools, and "stuff" on the table. Nice set up, James. Let us know how she drafts after you get it hooked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayco Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 Well, I got the side draft flue installed today. It worked really well dispite the fact that I only had 8 ft. of 10in. pipe for the vertical part. The horizontal section is the casing from an old pressure washer. 10in. x10in. x 30in. It all fit together surprisingly well. I'm now on the lookout for a couple sections of 10 in. pipe to add height to the stack. It worked well enough today, a clear weather, high pressure sort of day.........but I'm not sure how it will be on rainy , low pressure days. We will see. I now have power to the shop, and lights. Moved my main anvil in.....gotta set a post for the post vise. I've done a little trial forging in the new shop, but I'm resisting the urge to bring all my tongs,hammers,chisels,hardy tools, and other assorted smithing 'stuff' in until I have proper hangers or shelving to store stuff. That's what the problem was with the old shop.....no organization! Here are some pics.......(there are more in the gallery) The work.......continues! James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyGeorge Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Boy that looks like it really drafts, James. Great job. I know what you mean about no organization. That's why I recently cleaned up my own shop. Now I just have to remember what shelf I put "IT" on. LOL. Looks great. I wish nothing but good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnr Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Looking real good there!!! Seems to have a great draft. Finnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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