Help with candle holders

[Matt Smith]

So I belong to a lord of the rings collectors forum and I started a thread looking for inspiration  on what I could forge from middle earth other than swords.. anyway one member posted this pic of candle sconces from the prancing pony they look pretty straightforward however does anyone know how to go about forging the round parts in the stem right below the holder for the candle?

[Ridgewayforge]

Either upset and fuller down, or lay some welding bead down and grind it into the appropriate shape. I highly doubt that it would be easier to start from that size stock and forge down, but its a possibility. 

[Mark Ling]

you could try and make a spring swage to make the rings, would be helpful if you ever planned on doing more than one.

                                                                                            Littleblacksmith

[Frosty]

You could draw down from from that size rd. stock. You could upset and swage to final. You could make collars.

I think you'd benefit from swages to finish the form in any case.

Frosty The Lucky.

[BIGGUNDOCTOR]

I would lean towards collars, less tooling. The spike looks awfully thick for a taper candle though.

[DSW]

I think collars would be the way I'd go as well. I might fuller the stem where the collar goes, then set the collar. That would easily lock it in place so I wouldn't have to weld it.

[VaughnT]

I'd start off real simple and not add those beads to the thing.  In Middle Earth, there were quite a few blacksmiths, so it's fair to say that there would have been some variations on that design all around the Prancing Pony.  

I might even go ahead and do the beads, but do them as an appliqué.  A bit of copper grounding wire, for example, would look really nice against the black iron.  A collar with some brass wash on it.... 

Lots of ideas and it looks like a fun project.

[Wayne]

Fuller/file two circular grooves, wrap wire round and braze/solder?