Glenn Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 What are the best reasons to choose the Oxygen/Acetylene (gas) type of welding over other types. What are the minimum and maximum thickness arc Oxygen/Acetylene type of welding can handle? Any advice on the process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrforge Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 One thing for sure, TIG welded aluminum is a more brittle weld, if the joint must be formed after welding, I use oxy/Acetyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbillysmith Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 You would choose oxy/acetylene welding because it may be the only thing that you have. But now adays, it isn't used very much. But can be used on pretty much any thickness as long as you know how to do the process properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 There have been times when rusted areas were removed from quarter panels in a vehicle and ox/ac was used to weld the new material back into place. That was full penetration mostly verticle welding with a flat bead. It is fair to say ox/ac welding of thin tim has been replaces by mig welding (wire welding). I have also seen ox/ac used to weld 1/4 inch thick materials. Ox/ac can easily be used for cutting steel, heat treating and tempering materials, spot heating, short heating, and is a versatile system, able to do many jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLMartin Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 ive herd that you can weld aluminum with OA but have never seen it, ill have to try it, any tips, ive brazed and welded thin stuff like 3/32 but thats it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eburgblue Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I have OA welded alu sprinkler pipes many times. Not too difficult. I always used the prefluxed filler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryCarroll Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I worked at a Ford stamping plant for 35 years--much as a salvage repairman--metal finisher. OA--tig--mig--arc. In my smitty I would be lost a lot of times without my torch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfdecarter Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Are the portable kits worth considering? Or are the tanks too small? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Patrick Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 The thing to consider when you for an oxy/ac rig is where you will source your bottles. The small rigs(portable) are fine if you use it not so often. If you use your torch alot, welding, cutting bending whatever you are going to use alot more gas. Now, some weld shop suppliers won't fill tanks, some will. The ones that do, make sure they fill them on site, rather than sending them out to be filled. If you are like me, I don't have time to wait on that. What a lot of suppliers do is lease you the tanks. They (the supplier)own the tanks, so if there is a problem with one, it is their problem, not yours. Also, tanks have to be pressure tested every so many years. If you own the tank, you are responsible for seeing to this. A supplier will not fill a tank unless it is certified for pressure test. So, in a lease situation, when you run out of gas, you take them back to the supplier, and exchange them. You then pay just the cost of the gas. (My last bill for both oxy and ac was 35$. I have medium sized tanks) My lease is for 99 years for both tanks. It cost me ,with the first gas fill, about 450$. I'm sure you can go down a size and go a little cheaper. The other option that has opened up is through my local farm supply TSC. They do an exchange program, like propane.In short, like a lease. They also supply shielding gas as well. As for the pricing,, not sure. Medium sized tanks last me a good while, and I use my torch on a fairly regular basis. And they really won't take up that much more space. I do a lot of welding with my set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithh999 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 remember that a properly adjusted torch set will use twice as much oxygen as acetylene so figure that in your bottle size/cost comparisons. especially when using a rosebud for heating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten Hammers Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Keith, for cutting you are correct on the bottle usage and pressures. I use plasma for almost 100 % here at home and my regulators stay at neutral ( 4 psi ) for welding. Cold weather is hard on regulators. 3/8 rod can be nicely welded to 16 ga sheet with gas. I also use mig ( and sometimes tack with a mig before finish welding with gas ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerald Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Remember, too, that acetylene usage for cutting and acetylene usage for a Rosebud are two different animals. The Rosebud really gulps down acetylene compared to a cutting tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skunkriv Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I use oxy/propane for cutting and heating either with the cutting tip or a rosebud. Cutting with propane requires special tips but they are available for most torches. I switch to acetylene for welding and brazing. About the only thing I weld with the torch are very light things like rose leaves and such and some repairs. My little 3' high acetylene bottle will usually last several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 I did my first forging last year using a OA set for the heating. Another nice thing is that I used it to weld the rose bud and leaf to the stem and it blends in nicely. Easily touched up if needed since the weld is at forging temp when you are done I own my tanks, but exchange tanks to get them filled. You just pay for the gas. (this is why a lot of people say don't bother with getting brand new tanks as most places will do tank exchange - you would have to wait around for over 7 hours for your acetylene tanks to be filled) I have a set of 40 cu ft tanks. I think it cost around 25 to get them filled. If at any time I feel I need larger tanks, I can trade these in and get bigger ones. They will give full credit for these tanks (going rate for them when I trade them in) to go towards the larger set. After you think about it, exchange system isn't that bad. You always have a good tank. I think if you have an old tank that is out of certification (hasn't been presure tested in a long time) they will exchange it but if it turns out bad, you basically have to pay for the tank you received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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