journey333 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 As seen on CL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWooldridge Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 They might have "shot the anvil" at some point and blown a chunk out of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Ritter Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Boy that anvil sure took a beating, but hey that still looks fun to rebuild with the right equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McPherson Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Some people say "I wish my anvil could talk". Someone silenced that one! If it talks, get a court reporter and issue a warrant for the criminal. Still, I would pay $.25/lb to rebuild it.Okay, who am I kidding. $.50/lb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 That is strange damage; I've seen lots of missing face plates, (especially in anvils that used multiple plates for the face) and even anvils where they continued to use it without a faceplate and broken off horns and heels; but getting that sort of fracture down into the "meat" of the body is a first for me. Hmm might be interesting to get a MatSci look at it to give a guess at how that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twcoffey Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 You have to admit that was a good weld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Well the faceplate failed along the weld to the next one as you can see and even see the bevel. Can't tell if the missing piece came off attached to the underlying metal or not so I don't have to admit that. Still trying to get an idea of the force and vector to get that failure and wondering if the wrought iron had a bad spot in it before it was forged into the body. Not a bad anvil if you wanted one to mess around with---perhaps milling the missing area flat and building bolt on swages for dedicated work? Or a nice drawing curved die? Or drop it on the pesky roadrunners... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 If the anvil was parked out behind the barn for years, and little kids had access to hammers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 What was that old saying that a standard issue Marine could break an anvil with a rubber mallet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wd&mlteach Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Looks to me like a shearing action with direction of impact originating where the step was. I can't imagine the force need to do such a thing in a single hit, unless the anvil fell from a signifigant height or it was used in anvil blasting. Then I believe that it could be possible if the anvil in question struck another anvil on the way down. According to google they can blast things pretty high up to 300 feet in the air. So guessing conservatively that once 125 pound anvil falling from 200 feet can generate (guesstimating a bit on movement after impact) 76524 pounds of force. So pretty much a 38 ton whack right on the step. I am no physics expert nor a math teacher but to me that might just do it. Somebody who is an engineer might be able to give a better explanation and provide the math to support it. I just plugged my guesstimates into a couple of online calculators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knots Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I have a theory of what might have contributed this type of damage. Look at the texture of the anvils core. There appears to be a difference between the core and the outer inch or so of WI. Looking at the break there is a distinct appearance change from facing to the core. What if the core were muck iron faced with a higher grade of WI, and the weld between the two did not take. It appears that the anvil table may have been faced with the higher grade WI and then the plate welded to that surface. The steel plate and the WI stayed together held when the anvil failed. If the weld between the good quality WI held to the plate while the weld failed between the WI and the muck iron I could see this kind of result. On second look it does not look as if the top of the anvil core was capped with WI but that the steel plate as welded directly to the muck core. The plate held at the edges to the good WI before the whole thing failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulF Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 anvilfire.com : The Virtual Hammer-In Archives No. 602 - July 2009www.anvilfire.com/FAQs/archives/index.php?f=v072009.htm...Cached Here is the Quote, "My grandfather was a marine, (3rd wave onto Iwo Jima) and he said your standard issue marine could manage to break an anvil with a rubber mallet." As a former Marine, I'm not sure this is true! PaulF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten Hammers Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I think Frank is on to something. Paul, as a Navy Vet, i was trained in a Navy school (by Marines, with Sailors and Marines ) and later served under Marine Branch and Division officers. My observations would be that there were no rubber mallets issued to Marines. Perhaps a rawhide or wooden mallet. I am indeed glad to have Marines on my team. Semper Fi. Mechanism of injury is an interesting study. If you have ever wondered what's inside of an anvil, now you know. Kind of like going to a crime lab or morgue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 And if you look *I* was the one who posted that. Grandpa Bill also told me that marines didn't shave, they just pounded their bristles in with a hammer and bit them off....He's still with us and I hope I can get his great great grandsons to visit him while He's still around and they are getting old enough to remember him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusb Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Had to be a HEAP round "high exsplosive armor punching" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 "high explosive ANVIL punching" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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