royce unruh

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post-25950-0-73239600-1340577925_thumb.jpost-25950-0-61102800-1340577936_thumb.jpost-25950-0-03056500-1340577942_thumb.j do you think i need a chimmney? i dont know if i want one and my friend forges with me sometime.any questions or comments feel free to say

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it looks good, and you might want a chiminey on it, if you do put on on, have it sheilding the man on the blower from the main part of heat. have the opening for it on the one side, somthing you can also do instead of doing a classic "cover it and pull the smoke up" chiminy, you can make a "draft" chimney. its your same round opening but it acts on the concept that the cool air will pull in the hot and and thus also pull in the smoke... atleast i believe thats right. id have to consult my old masonry textbooks on grill building about this though

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If you are going to be forgeing outside, I would not use the chimney. I don't on my coal forge when doing demos outside. The breeze will carry the smoke away just fine. On my coal forge in the shop, I have a hood and it's piped thru the roof. :)

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Like Curleygeorge said, outside I wouldn't worry about it and inside I would. If someone is forging with you they can stand upwind when possible. Once you get the fire going the smoke will be lessened until you add more raw coal.

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ok thanks that was kinda what i was thinking some of the people in the chat room were trying to get me to put one on was wanting some other opinionsthanks

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Well it comes down to do *you* think it needs a chimney? What's ok for one fellow will be impossible environment for another. Outside forges do tend to need more of an enclosed fire area to profit most from a chimney though.

One question your profile says location Georgia: is that Georgia in the USA or Georgia in the USSR?

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... the USSR? Wow, you're showing your age there a bit ThomasPowers. Well that, or you've got a time machine ;-)

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Actually I was thinking of the song "Back in the U.S.S.R." by The Beatles so I guess I am dating myself even further...Always my favorite "beach boys song" even if it had nothing to do with them!

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I like that "firepot". Actually I like that is is something not often seen, a departure from the "pot" or "duck's nest".

The long V configuration would lend itself well to applications where a heat taken along a length of stock was advantageous, especially if both ends were open.

Versatile.

With the usual firepot you have one central point where the blast is introduced. With a long folded V shaped firepot you could have a series of holes running the whole length to deliver air across the full length of it with holes all the way along the pipe. If you want just a small usual fire a rotating sleeve that would leave just the holes in the middle open would work a charm.

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For my long linear firepot I left the end of the tuyere open and just used a ramrod to control the length blown.

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thats the way it is ferrous that four in pipe has a closed off 3-1/2 in inside with that threaded rod to adjust the holes open or closed the pic i got of that didnt turn out good so i trashed it

oh i forgot to say i live in louisville georgia usa

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well, yes the chimney idea doesnt seem that appealing outside, untill the wind shifts or the wind decides to blow where your working. i have my forge and anvil and vice all outside, but the wind just absolutely kills me. i have the anvil on a stump so combined its 200-300lbs. and the vice are bolted to a heavy steel table. i have no idea where the wind is going to blow the smoke untill it starts smoking, then i have to pickup the forge and move it to get it where the smoke isnt in my eyes and lungs when im working. thats why i was all for the chiminey idea, i KNOW how much it absolutly SUCKS to get that in your eyes. i get so mad when i have hot steel in the vise, i have 10seconds on the clock and i gotta run away because of where the smoke is blowing.

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to tell u the truth the smoke doesnt bother me much just when i turn the blower while lighting but its not in its permanent sutup yet so that might change the vise is on the other corner from the blower and the anvils about 3 feet behind that threaded rod like i said its not set up right yet
i think i will forget the chimney till its set up the right way thanks though

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Hey Royce,

Nice job getting your forge up and running. If you can control the fire and have enough depth in the pot it will work. Unless your are setting up to work on large (long) speciality pieces, deep is better than wide for most applications.

For outside ops I have seen some set ups where they shroud the fire pot and funnel the smoke off, it helps at demos. It also offers a bit of shade so you can see the color changes better. Most of the shrouds are cut down 55 gal drums, open on one side so you can get in and out, with a short piece of stove pipe attached. Nothing fancy but they do work well. Easily portable as they just sit on top of the forge table.

Peter

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ok got it all set up now and i also painted my forge clayed the firepot not that it needed it too much but was worried about the front it kept scaling changed the blower and made an anvil stand just need someone to help me get the anvil on it proly will get someone this evepost-25950-0-16631100-1343072555_thumb.jpost-25950-0-57072700-1343072581_thumb.jpost-25950-0-36528200-1343072590_thumb.j
just need to build a roof over head that wont get in the way of dad 30 ft wide hanger door which isnt shown here

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Love the setup!  The only thing I can see needed is a hood/chimney to give you a bit of shade to see colors and get that smoke above your head.  Looks like you're in south GA, and that sun can be mighty bright in them parts.  Shade is nice to have!

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i forge after dark most of the time with a light on the anvils and there is a door o can let up right where the picture was taken that lifts out and shades the area the forge is also on the north side of the buiding shade isnt too much of a problem just rain and wind soon to be remeded thpough

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thanks,
Royce

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Thankyou for the pictures of the door.  Other than the bi-fold doors That are cable lift on the inside the doors that I have seen like yours use hydraulic cylinders to lift them.  This door is the first one I have seen with a cable lift.  Thanks again!   Armand

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