ThomasPowers Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kehler Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Those look just like the ones we used at the railway, similar hammer too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I think the photo's from the old Albuquerque, New Mexico, railway yard, forging shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Yup the Albuquerque RR Shop back in the 1940's IIRC. Note the keeper on the tongs and the frame to give you more side leverage to rotate the workpiece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon Sculpture Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 8"-10" round? The tongs look badly sprung to me, even have a spacer in there. The largest one I own are for 4" square and 5" round. Still wish you could dig up some pictures of the glory days Jim :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstein Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 So crazy! Oh to be a fly on the wall of that place for a while. I bet those guys make it look effortless. (null) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kehler Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 The big hammer is a 5000 lb Erie and the small hammer is a 1600 lb. Bertram. I worked on the small hammer, thats me with the beard, on my last day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sask Mark Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Jim, where was the shop located? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kehler Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Weston Shops in Winnipeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sask Mark Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Cool. My large Peter Wright came out of a backline rail shop in rural Ontario. It was being sent for scrap in the 70's when the guy I bought it from grabbed it (lucky for me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon Sculpture Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Thanks Jim, more photos, process or tales of hammering please... What are you holding? GO SOUTH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNewman Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Jim the two steam Hammers in the Stelco shop that my Massey came out of were Bertrams. The Bertram foundry was in Dundas Ontario about 15minutes from here. Unfortunately it is long gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kehler Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 John, the Bertram foundry made some heavy duty stuff the CNRail Shop in Winnipeg (I was at CPRail) that closed in about 1990 had a few Bertram hammers as well as shears and punch presses. Michael, the picture is a beer ad, my workmate in the picture couldn't understand why I was quitting and thought I might just want to go to a Mexican beach and drink a few beers instead. Didn't mean to hijack this thread, sorry! A big enough hammer means never having to take a second heat. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNewman Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 A big enough hammer means never having to take a second heat. :D Two thumbs up for that :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 Now it's time for Patrick to post a picture of them working some 40" diameter Titanium at Scott Forge. Their tongs have an engine, wheels and a steering wheel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himesmagic Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I know it's not, but it looks photoshopped. Lol It just looks too crazy to be true. It's awesome that they can forge such large objects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kehler Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 By the looks of it they are making something from a scrap car axle, we used scrap axles as material for lots of stuff. Its not that difficult but everybody on the team, (blacksmith, helper, hammer driver and crane operator), have to know whats going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Thanks for posting the pics. How long would a fellow have to sweep floors, empty trash cans and such before they let him squirt a little oil on such equipment? Like you say Jim, the crew has to know each other and the job very well. We were like that on the drill crew, we'd go days without saying anything about the job, it drove visiting white hats nuts, they never knew what was going on. It usually took us about two years to get a new guy trained up so they weren't more hazard than help. It was usually easier training someone who'd never worked on a drill than an "experienced driller" it's so much harder to untrain someone before you train them. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon Sculpture Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Several billets up at heat 24/7 so you make a repair or just pinch off a wrench? Limiting the amount of direction needed to orchestrate a job is key to safety and proditivity but, working solely can lend itself to spontaneous creation. Its also hard to tell someone which way to drive when your not sure where your going :wacko: What size is an axle anyhows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
territorialmillworks Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I told my wife that I "needed" that power hammer. I can't repeat what she said other than "NO" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McPherson Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 There is a plant near me that casts up to 3' x 20' billets of titanium, and then reheats and forges them out with an automated rotary hammer, or a press. Makes the whole building shake. Unfortunately, no photos allowed. The closest a human gets to the work is transporting and holding the work under the hammers in a specialized fork lift, which has rotating clamps (tongs) instead of forks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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