Bill_49 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I just bought this anvil vesterday and finally got it unloaded from the trunk of my wife's car. Boy, that was a mistake! We had to use a backhoe to load the thing... it weighs over 200# and seems much smaller in this pic. I will try to take some better pics tomorrow. The horn seems to be cut off in this pic, but it is all there. No markings, though... and I can't stand the paint. No cracks that I can see. I am curious as to who made this thing and how old it is. Hopefully I'll know more if/when I take the paint off. By the way, it is about 32" long and 13" high. I forgot to measure the width. oops. Anybody have any idea what this is?Two duplicate posts have been combined so some of the posts may be out of sync. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Dean Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 WOW!! now that's the smallest anvil I've ever heard of, you can't even see it! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_49 Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 Okay... here is the pic... but now I have 2 identical (almost) threads. Maybe a moderator will delete one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Dean Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I had to go to your profile and go into "all post by this member" to find the picture. I suggest that you just post it here... Anyway, it appears to be a Hay Budden but a few more pictures of the other side, front feet, bottom, and without the GREEN paint would help. Nice looking anvil but it makes ya wonder, "Why the green paint? Is there something hidden under all that ugly paint?" Nice looking anvil tho. There should be a serial # on the front left foot and possibly with the letter "A" in front of the #s. With that # we can determine what year it was made. If it has no letter "A", it is pre 1920 IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sask Mark Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 The shape and size of the horn in relation to the rest of the anvil reminds me of some Arm and Hammer anvils I have seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_49 Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 That's what I was thinking before I bought it, but I don't see any markings on it. It appears to have a piece of hardened steel welded to the top, but I am not positive. I'll just have to get a wire wheel to it, I guess. I will try to weigh if I can find an appropriate set of scales. Once again, I see no markings at all... maybe I am not looking hard enough. Thanks for the info. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 That sure is a bright green! Now all it needs is a little yellow and it can be Deere. I think that the first thing I would do is get rid of that paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kashmire Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 or paint john deere in yellow on the side... no, definetly loose the paint. i used rustolium high heat black on mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagedude Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 (edited) Looks like a Peter Wright anvil or maybe a HB. Edited September 11, 2009 by imagedude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Does it have a pritchel hole? If not it's a modern mexican cast anvil made using a "real" anvil to make the mould . We get a lot of them down this way. They range from pretty nice to atrocious depending on what they were casting that day. Also check the horn to see if there is a mold line going down the face of it. If it has a pritchel (that wasn't drilled as a retrofit) forget about the above. The green paint makes me wonder... Can you tell us what the bottom looks like? The indentation on the bottom is very indicative of several brands of anvils----HB, A&H, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Instead of wire brushing the paint off use sand paper on the sides so it leaves paint in any stamped in markings that way they'll be easy to read. Frosty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 The pic where he wants to trade it for a welder seems to show no pritchel and so I'd bet on it being a mexican cast copy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meinhoutexas Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 that was quick just got it now wants to sell it.hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_49 Posted September 12, 2009 Author Share Posted September 12, 2009 Turns out it is 292 pounds. Length 33-3/4" Width 5-1/4" Height 13-1/2" I may sell it... arthritis and bad heart... won't be using it... have 2 small ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_49 Posted September 12, 2009 Author Share Posted September 12, 2009 Here is a better pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 A lot of times the makings are faint to begin with. Check the lower left front (under the horn) foot for a serial number. Be careful removing the paint, you don't want to remove any markings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragons lair Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 My guess would be Trenton. Don't see the PW flats on the feet. Paint stripper works well with out damage. Find us some markings. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_49 Posted September 13, 2009 Author Share Posted September 13, 2009 I know nothing about anvils and really don't feel like messing with it anymore. It is too big, too heavy, and I just do not need it, so I am now open to cash offers on this "thing." I have just about decided that shipping this thing is out of the question. It would have to be freighted and that would be more trouble than this old man needs. I live directly across the river from hwy 35, the main route for through traffic going from Ohio to the Virginia and the Carolina's, so maybe someone will be able to drop by and get this thing. It's not like I am asking $4 a pound for it, but I will certainly entertain cash offers... in fact, I am beginning to lean in that direction. Make me an offer and come get it. Bill Sikes Leon, WVwsikes@earth1.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Did you ever tell us if it had a pritchel hole? If it doesn't it's most likely a Mexican cast anvil where they use an old anvil to make the molds from and so can range from decent quality to not very good depending on what was in the ladle that day and would not be heat treated as well. Lots of them out this way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Einhorn Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Did you ever tell us if it had a pritchel hole? ...... I don't see any pritchel hole in either of the photographs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_49 Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 Does it have a pritchel hole? If not it's a modern mexican cast anvil made using a "real" anvil to make the mould . We get a lot of them down this way. They range from pretty nice to atrocious depending on what they were casting that day. Also check the horn to see if there is a mold line going down the face of it. If it has a pritchel (that wasn't drilled as a retrofit) forget about the above. The green paint makes me wonder... Can you tell us what the bottom looks like? The indentation on the bottom is very indicative of several brands of anvils----HB, A&H, etc... The bottom of the anvil is flat... actually it could be flatter. The casting on this anvil is not very good and you are right... it looks like it could be an Arm & Hammer, Trenton, Hay Budden, or even a Peter Wright... but if it is a name brand it is an unmarked "second' having lower than normal quality casting. Another option is that it is an old import with no markings. The Mexican bootleg option is a new one to me. That is a possibility. There is no casting mark on the horn, but there has been some grinding done to cover up something and maybe that was a casting mark. I will say that the horn definitely has a loud ping to it. I will be trying to get some of the paint off today. I really want to know more about this anvil before I complete any sale. Please read my next post. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_49 Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 that was quick just got it now wants to sell it.hmmm Sir, I will not be confrontational with you unless it is what you would desire. If you have something to say, just go ahead and say it. I have been nothing but honest about this anvil, including my ignorance about anvils. Granted, I know more about anvils than I did when I bought it a few days ago. I really did not know what I was buying, I just thought I wanted a big anvil. Why, you ask? I do not know why I thought I wanted a big anvil. I just saw it on CraigsList and it was only about 10 miles away so I went and got it. I have since determined that I really do not need this big anvil, but I would rather keep it than to sell it to someone who thought I had fleeced them. I buy and sell on eBay a good bit... I have around 550 transactions, mostly buying household items, and I have a PERFECT eBay rating. I have NEVER tried to fleece anyone. I stand on my reputation. Just yesterday I told a forum member who lives in Ripley, WV that I do not think he would be interested in this anvil because it is not of the best casting quality. I think it will make someone a good work anvil, but it is not something you would want to buy to try to resell. I will not lie to you... you are not worth me damaging my reputation, regardless of who you are. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keykeeper Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 My understanding after communicating with him is that someone welded the pritchel hole up. I passed on trying to buy the anvil, what he wants for it is too rich for my poor hind-side. Oh well, maybe I'll find another that size close by me..someday. Nice fella, hope he finds it a good home without much hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_49 Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 My understanding after communicating with him is that someone welded the pritchel hole up. I passed on trying to buy the anvil, what he wants for it is too rich for my poor hind-side. Oh well, maybe I'll find another that size close by me..someday. Nice fella, hope he finds it a good home without much hassle. Quote: Originally Posted by ThomasPowers Does it have a pritchel hole? If not it's a modern mexican cast anvil made using a "real" anvil to make the mould . We get a lot of them down this way. They range from pretty nice to atrocious depending on what they were casting that day. Also check the horn to see if there is a mold line going down the face of it. If it has a pritchel (that wasn't drilled as a retrofit) forget about the above. The green paint makes me wonder... Can you tell us what the bottom looks like? The indentation on the bottom is very indicative of several brands of anvils----HB, A&H, etc... The above comments were posted on this forum on my other thread concerning this anvil. I made a mistake and actually double posted the first post of the thread and it resulted in two different threads with the same title. Please read the other thread... it has some more recent info. Here is my response to the above comments. The bottom of the anvil is flat... actually it could be flatter. The casting on this anvil is not very good and you are right... it looks like it could be an Arm & Hammer, Trenton, Hay Budden, or even a Peter Wright... but if it is a name brand it is an unmarked "second' having lower than normal quality casting. Another option is that it is an old import with no markings. The Mexican bootleg option is a new one to me. That is a possibility. There is no casting mark on the horn, but there has been some grinding done to cover up something and maybe that was a casting mark. I will say that the horn definitely has a loud ping to it. I will be trying to get some of the paint off today. I really want to know more about this anvil before I complete any sale. Please read my next post. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_49 Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 (edited) My understanding after communicating with him is that someone welded the pritchel hole up. I passed on trying to buy the anvil, what he wants for it is too rich for my poor hind-side. Oh well, maybe I'll find another that size close by me..someday. Nice fella, hope he finds it a good home without much hassle. Keykeeper, When I told you that, I had never heard about Mexican counterfeit cast anvils, which never had a pritchel hole to begin with. I will let you guys know more after I get some of that darned paint off. Bill Sikeswsikes@earth1.net Edited September 14, 2009 by Bill_49 change "forged" to "cast" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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