Steve Sells

I remembered your Geology studies from another thread. Just having fun with you, but I will go sit in my corner now.

heat and hit with hammer, you got pieces Ask any 3 yr old it is as simple as that

Yes good deal One thing about wrought is there are various grades, depending on how much it was folded and welded back into itself, Your looks a little better than the 5/8 rounds I have. They need to be flattened and re welded a few times then then can be used for many things. Where as the wagon wheel I have Is all ready to use as-is.

Bob I think the 6 mil yr old tag was to let us know that it was a properly aged rock, and not NEW rock like from Mt St. Helen's, or that one up Frosty's way in Alaska, as we all know it takes more than a few weeks to age stone for the nice colors and patterning in the Granite that we expect from a quality vintage volcano flow

First to correct the mis quote you made, its not 50+ cents and higher per lb, its 50+ cents per GRAM !!! for Campo Del Ceilo meteorite currently. that's 250 grams at $125.00 or more ! and it doesn't work well for blades in this state, it still need refined. As it shatters when heated and hit. that the reason for using the Can weld to start it so I don't loose it all over the floor of my shop. After a pattern welded blade gets beyond about 1,000 layers the pattern tends to "wash out" meaning it is hard to see defined layers when they get so fine. because our eyes only see so much detail, like looking at a tree from far away, we see the green top but not any leaves. When closer we may see leaves and bark, but from distance, because there is to much detail to process, we see trunk and tree. The meteorite layer are the same way, with a magnifying glass you should see layers, but not with the necked eye, as its too fine to notice layering of the meteorite, rather is should appear to be a mono steel layer, as the only true way to get homogeneous layer with that rock is to melt it with the wrought in a crucible. But I did it the way our ancestors had to work out the bloom from their furnaces. For a finished blade I can now use the meteorite as the bright layer. I am planning for around 200 layers in the final knife; should end up with about 100 layers of 1087, and 100 layers of the meteorite I blended with Wrought iron [that blending of wrought and rock is in-itself layered to 120 layers]. so for appearances.... I stated it is the equivalent of 24,000 layers, because 200 layers of blade when finished, multiply by the 120 layers of refining of the rock layer itself = 24,000. that is how thin the layering of the rocks and wrought become in their part of the final billet. at this point, I hope this is clearer what I meant.

I have a problem with some one playing the membership of this forum for fools, and refusing to respond when we have sent you PM's. You said you will be going to find it elsewhere? You have it in front of your face. I am tired of this game of yours. I though that after our talk in the chat last weekend, you were starting to listen, I was wrong. so I am going to help you ONE more time, By helping you not post for a while, giving you more time to learn how to click a link for information. Simply: You may not post for the next week, Please use this time to help yourself.

nice, Now your journey to the dark side is nearly complete.... my young apprentice... I am your Uncles sisters half brother by marriage on her sisters side... ( gotta love space balls)

As for where I got the idea for using Meteorite? From Col, JPHrisoulas PhD ret. of Salamander Armory, and my former teacher: Bill Wyant, of Avalon Ironworks. These 2 men have given me skills and motivation to try more than just simple blade work.

now its 1.25 x 16 x .2 inches at 120 layers, of wrought iron and Meteorite mix. So it looks like I got it. Even if I make the blade billet only 200 layers, this one' layering will be too fine to see any separate layers (equivalent of a 24,000 layer billet at this level because 200 billet layers x 120 meteorite)

Try here KNIFE LAWS of the 50 STATES I check here to see if an order complies before I make them to ship, the client may still want the blade, but I know that, they know the legal issues with it. In general most places accept a credit card as proof of age. But I am not a lawyer, that's my sisters job.

It depends on your definition of Easy. I heat some steel, then I hammer it, then I grind it, its a sword. The details are in HOW. How to selet the steel, how to apply the hammer, how to use the grinder. That knowing how, comes from experience, the hammering itself does not change, nor does holding a piece of steel against the grinder.

Click on the links we provided, if you can't do that how did you even get online to get registered here?

or rather than a copy, buy the real Hofi hammer. Here at IFI

4? Not sure that will last long for a real shop. I did 6.5, with 4500 mix. Also used 5/8 rebar on 3 ft centers... welcome to the heart ache of a new shop Dont ask us smiths about what is best in YOUR area, as soil varies. Ask construction people about what lasts, there WILL be major vibrations form power hammer, so a separate slab has advantages, and not much more $$ to get it right, also electrically bond the floor to the grounds.

maybe your idea of orange might have been my idea of red, because many tool steels don't like to get hit too cold, or they crack to let you know not to do that, Keep it hot, and dont try to get too many hits in it per heat, if it gets red, stop hammering.

need to remove spot rust, like on car bumper or wheel fender? Aluminum Foil, wet with tap water and rub it away. Works on the bike :)

Ao will never last long being used on steel.

yup, You drill it out, and then pin and epoxy same as with any other stone, but you gotta post pics:D

hard to get enough heat with a torch. Grind the steel clean before placing the sections together Flux helps keep out air. Get it welded before twisting.

so many in fact I merged them into one thread.

the blade is not a good idea. a credit card or other to scrape it off, NOT squish it, is the proffered way we are taught at EMT school

how about the yahoo group for home casting? HomeFoundry_and_Casting : Tools +Techniques for the Home Foundry

could we get Spielberg to direct?

This happens so much on topics that are already answered in reply's covered heavily in this forum as well as other places, its not like searching for the Grail , But I do have my Shrubberies just in case. :D

you have already been pointed to the sticky's so you must not have looked very hard, nor listen to the answers for the 167 other questions you have posted in the past 2 months. Start reading for your information, its all here, we are not your personal servants. hint: there is a sticky about choosing steels, we have a found steel chart http://www.iforgeiron.com/Blueprints-000-100/bp0002.html Or from a members web site http://atar.com/old/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=16&MMN_position=26:21