JME Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Just had to toot my own horn. Been using long pliers for tonges so I got some round bar 3/8. (I think I should have gone bigger) and... I just made my first set of tonges. They are sloppy and the rivet s lopsided but they hold a piece of steel and feel good in my hand, so this is a win for me. Thank you to everyone who has given advice on how to get started. More help than you can imagine. And thank you everyone who has answered all the newbie questions. Lots of great reading. I have learned so much I now realize how much more there is to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalcain2 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 not bad for a first go-round. the next ones you make, use half inch stock, as it will hold up a lot better. way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JME Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 Thank you. I just wish I hadn't ran out of propane 10 min after I was done. I had no idea that all 4 of my tanks were empty. Oh well I will see how they hold up tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-1ToolSteel Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I'm actually impressed with how wide you were able to get the rivet area. I make mine with 1/2", and still have to upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JME Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 I used a 3lb mini sledge. It took 3 tries. I kept at it cause everyone says how important it is to get it so flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew D Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Good job on those tongs. So cool to use tools you made. 3/8 round stock seems a little to small, but I can see they would make good tongs without drawing out the reins. I went to a workshop with Mark Aspery and we made flat bit tongs and box jaw tongs. We use 3/4 square stock. At first I thought it would be difficult working with that large of stock, but I found it worked very well. The last two sets of tongs I have made from 3/4 round and 11/16 round. The bosses were much better formed. Also, I have gained some very valuable experience in drawing out the reins, which turned out really nice. I was amazed at how a 4 inch piece of 3/4 square would easily transform into 12-14 inch reins. I find drawing out the reins a pleasure now that I am familiar with the process of drawing them out, barring them up and rounding the corners. I have some 7/8 square stock I salvaged that I will make several of my next pairs from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 The riveting looks like my first pair Now Get some bigger stock and make more now that it's fresh in your mind. They will get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-1ToolSteel Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 It helps me to do both sides at the same time. You can keep holding them up to each other to check for symmetry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JME Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 Thanks for the advice. Definitely going to use bigger stock next time and going to do both sides at the same time. Should have time this weekend to do it, ( xxxx working for a living) I did these 1 at a time cause I didn't have tongs just some long pliers ( was getting tired of the smell of singed hair). I have some 3/4 rebar. Think I will try with that. What do you guys think? Never tried anything with rebar before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 with rebar it could go well or it could go terrible. it's a mixed bag. Read up on some of the many posts on here about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalcain2 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Daswulf said: with rebar it could go well or it could go terrible. it's a mixed bag. Read up on some of the many posts on here about it. yup. i think 3/4 might be to big anyway. i use 1/2''. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-1ToolSteel Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I've used a little bit of rebar, and so far so good. There is no "too big", but that would definitely take a lot of drawing out.(understatement of the year) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalcain2 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 13 hours ago, C-1ToolSteel said: It helps me to do both sides at the same time. You can keep holding them up to each other to check for symmetry. not to be contrary but i find it easier to make one side then make the other side to match it. just my 2 cents though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ling Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I use 3/4 inch round for all my tongs, except for the ones made from railroad spikes (5/8" square). I find that 1/2" is I a bit small, unless you upset it. I personally enjoy drawing 3/4 inch or anything over half inch, and below 1 inch over the far edge of the anvil! If you do it efficiently than I think you will find it quite enjoyable also, and honestly after some practice (as in a lot) you will find it to be a walk in the park, which I'm not quite there, but it is WAY easier for me now, than it was earlier! Way easier! Littleblacksmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
264booking@gmail.com Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 On 11/6/2016 at 4:46 PM, JME said: Just had to toot my own horn. Been using long pliers for tonges so I got some round bar 3/8. (I think I should have gone bigger) and... I just made my first set of tonges. They are sloppy and the rivet s lopsided but they hold a piece of steel and feel good in my hand, so this is a win for me. Thank you to everyone who has given advice on how to get started. More help than you can imagine. And thank you everyone who has answered all the newbie questions. Lots of great reading. I have learned so much I now realize how much more there is to learn. Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JME Posted November 11, 2016 Author Share Posted November 11, 2016 Thanks. I am going to try an other pair this weekend. I will use some larger stock. Thanks again for all the encouragement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Great work on your first set of tongs. I did my first set out of 3/8 round and they are fine for light work. By all means try the 3/4 rebar, but be prepared for some heavy work drawing that stuff out, and be aware its quality can't be guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JME Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 Thank you. I will see how the rebar works but prob just get some more bar if it is hard to work. I will post results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JME Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 Ok so my second set of tongs, out of rebar, are not worth showing, but my 3rd set are great. (1/2" round)I am very proud of these. Took some practice bit I finally got the rivet right.I made them to hold an old file that is becoming a knife. Lots of grinding to do. I am thinking an oak handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou L Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Congrats JME,. I'm right there with you. I'm at that point where making a working tool in order to make something else is so incredibly satisfying. I hope that feeling of success doesn't fade. I'll be sad the day I hammer out a punch or something, use it and am not in awe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JME Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 I don't think the novelty will ever wear off. Next is a center punch, slitting tool and a drift. Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 The more you research and make them the better. Glad you are doing better. the more we do the better we get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JME Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just wish I could spend time in the shop everyday. I have been trying to spend as much time out there as I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalcain2 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 i sure know what that's like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmangeler Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I see you tried the rebar and then moved on, the most valuable thing you use in the shop is your time. barring the rediculous I try to use good steel if I am investing my time into a tool. Also keep in mind that quality steel will hold up better when you do not do a perfect job making the tool. There are people who really enjoy making a useful item from scrap, that is fine and might be your personality. I just thought I would put in how I view steel selection, esp. for tools. When I use scrap for tongs it is coil spring, or similar. Others like to make tongs from mild steel so they can cool them when hot as in red with out as much risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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