rustyshackleford Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 I have determined that the best decision is to buy a new anvil, rather than find an old one in questionable condition/size/price. I would prefer a ~250+lb; the question is: What brand? A double horn is the preferred form, but Peddinghaus, TFS, Old World (Habermann style?), Refflinghaus? Kohlswa is nice, but not frugal enough. obviously shipping for it would be a consideration, but its a new anvil, so it's not like it's a steal anyways. The old world anvils seem rather cheap comparatively, who can attest to their quality? Did I miss a manufacturer? Thanks everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnr Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 My choice would be TFS the price isn't outrageous and the quality is good. A friend has a large old world and he says it's quite soft. YMMV. Finnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jymm Hoffman Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 While this is not 250 lbs. take a look and compare sizes and technical info. I use one of these in my shop everyday, very versital. Double Horn Anvil - Blacksmith Photo Gallery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip in china Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Why not send a message to Uri Hofi. His anvils are 125Kg (=275 pounds) and their design sets them apart. I am not sure who is the agent in USA. I have one here and if I were you I would certainly not buy anything else until I had had a chat with Uri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welder19 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 If I was going to buy a new anvil here in the states I would go with a Nimba. welder19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmercier Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Jymm, are you still / are you able to if you want to, producing a hornless colonial style? I'm thinking about getting my first (and hopefully last) new anvil next year around income tax return time, and I'd love to get a hornless colonial like the one I saw that you had cast a year or two ago. JosephPrivott, my recommendation is to save up any extra money you need and get exactly what you're looking for and the quality you're looking for and do it right the first time. An anvil should last you more than a lifetime, so you should only ever really have to buy just one. As they say, only a rich man can afford cheap tools. Buy the best you can the first time and then save money in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Cast entirely of H13, fully heat treated, 52-54 on Rockwell C scale. The face is 4-9/16 inches wide, 9-1/2 inches long, horn 4-1/2 inches long, and about 9-1/2 inches high. I did this for demonstrations requiring historic tools prior to 1820. I primarily use it with my traveling forge I use for 18th. century shows. If anyone is interested in purchasing one, the cost is $850 with or without a horn, plus shipping. I will donate a portion of the sales to IForgeIron if you tell me you found it here. Jymm is making a colonial anvil. May want to contact him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jymm Hoffman Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Still availabe by order, but don't know what the price will be next monty let alone next year. The foundry is about 8 weeks out from date of order. I will do what I can to keep the price as low as possible. I did let a couple of other anvil dealers know who my foundry is, they liked the material and quality they saw at Quad State. We might be seeing more American made anvils of H13 in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyassforge Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 I just wanted to say I have one of Jymm's colonial anvils and I really love it! Bill Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGropp Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I've used a 260# Old World double horn full time in my shop for the last 7-8 years. I love it, good rebound, plenty hard, a much more useful shape than a London pattern in my opinion. I cut the ring by securing it tight to the wood base by two 5/8'' plates through -bolted through the post, pinching the anvils feet. Nothing moves or vibrates with this setup. I ground off the numbers cast on the side as I like a smooth side face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerkid Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I would buy a Euroanvil , or wait till Mr. Hofi starts selling his in the US and buy one of his (which I really want LOL) Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyshackleford Posted October 2, 2008 Author Share Posted October 2, 2008 I admire the Hofi design, but would prefer more weight if I am indeed to purchase a brand new one (as the price-to-weight curves contrast for any given brand). I am intrigued by the euroanvil design; why are they considerably less than others? I am rather close to Blacksmith's Depot, and will be traveling by Chester, VA soon, so I will have an opportunity to see bother Peddinghaus, Delta, and Euroanvils in person. I believe I would like to give each a simple forging test to get a feel for the hardness differences (if I can detect any). I would probably secure whatever I get in a "sand stand". I have tried to contact both Blacksmith's Supply, and Depot, but neither have returned my messages. Does anyone reading attend the meetings in Chandler on Wed.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip in china Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Euros are produced in the Czech republic and so are cheaper. You might have to do a bit of finishing on it but it would be a good , sound, big anvil at a price you can afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 There is an outfit in Wyoming that makes cast steel anvils, thing their name is Rat Hole Anvils. Jack Parks, a local blacksmith, bought one of their 275 lb ones a few years back and he liked it a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip in china Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Further to my earlier post above I heard today from the factory in Prague. They are having a clearance sale withI think a further 15% discount. So if anybody wants a few Euros now is probably a good time to buy (except that the $ isn't very strong at present). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDJ Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 There is an outfit in Wyoming that makes cast steel anvils, thing their name is Rat Hole Anvils. Jack Parks, a local blacksmith, bought one of their 275 lb ones a few years back and he liked it a lot. No idea about them but found the link while looking for these anvils, they look nice though. http://www.ratholeforge.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markh Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Get in touch with the Blacksmith Supply. The Euroanvil is great. Those guys at Oak Hill Iron/Big Blu use them. If Euroanvils are good enough for for them, they're good enough for anyone. I guess there's not the bragging rights you would get with the more expensive anvils because Nimba, RatHole, Tom Clarks, etc. are given more TLC before you get them. As someone said earlier, you have to finish it to your liking. So, if your like me and respect the more expensive anvils but don't have and/or want to spend the money, buy the Euro. Great anvil, unbeatable price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primtechsmith Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Also, Blacksmith Supply is about an hour from where our meetings are here in Virginia. You could purchase one from John and come up here for a meeting pick up the anvil from him. It would save you on shipping, and let you hang out with some of the smiths up here too. Also Alwin Wagener and Elmer Roush use Euroanvils...along with the instructor's anvil at the Yesteryear School of Blacksmithing is a 500# Euro. ...just a suggestion Peyton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Jim Keith used to have some nice anvils but I don't know what he has now BLACKSMITH & FARRIER TOOLS He makes very nice hammers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I did exactly what Peyton is suggesting. Arrange to have a EuroAnvil at the VA meeting. Shipping is very expensive. You'll need to email the euroanvil guy. I never got a hold of him on the phone but he answers his emails within a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyshackleford Posted October 6, 2008 Author Share Posted October 6, 2008 ...just a suggestion Peyton And well appreciated, thanks!You'll need to email the euroanvil guy. I never got a hold of him on the phone but he answers his emails within a day. I have tried both and his email rejected mine after trying for three days. Perhaps I will try again. I have the occasion to pass through Chester on my way to Williamsburg at least once a year, so I could just stop and pick it up en route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I'll see if I still have those emails from him. If remember correctly he was responding with a different email address than what was listed on his site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don A Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 "euroanvil guy" = Stephen Feinstein (correct?) I love mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyshackleford Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 I got a chance to go down to Blacksmith's Depot this weekend. I spoke to Steve and he showed me the models had. I admired them all greatly, and the TFS smithy specials really caught my eye. the 400 is a monster! I may just go with the 300, idk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtncrawler Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Sounds like your set on your decision, but I purchased a 250lb Rathole earlier this year and have been very happy with it. Of course, I visit Jackson WY from CO quite a bit, so picking one up saved me the shipping $$.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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